Tutorial: resolve 0 LBA,SEAGATE 7200.11 BIOS don't recognize

bigal.nz · **Joined:** December 23rd, 2008, 2:39 **Posts:** 60

Russwinters wrote:

The reason for "Not giving everything away" is that while you are a hobbyist; there are plenty of visitors to this site who are looking to begin data recovery as a profession, and are looking for instruction. It is because of this that you cannot expect Gurus to release certain information publicly on this forum. Even between posters here who seemingly get along there is a understanding that they will not share information with one another unless there is something to gain on both sides. The transfer of knowledge in this field is highly diplomatic.

Your best bet in the future is to ask if anyone would like to discuss things in private if it is stated an answer will not be given in public. It may be possible to trade knowledge for knowledge.

While this 7200.11 fix may seem easy to many technicians now but to all those technicians: What if the fix was not handed to you? Would you right now be able to fix those drives? Something that may seem trivial is far from trivial if the real work is not done for you.

I will try that, but I suspect my debating this topic will stop anyone here from wanting to help me. I would love to buy PC3000, but I have a mortgage, kids, wife, and this is only a hobby. So I want to learn to do the best I can with what I have got, or relatively inexpensive parts I can get of ebay and the like.

-Al
PS: Nothing personal BlackST

Russwinters

While you may not be able to afford tools such as PC3000 remeber one imporant thing: You in fact do not need PC3000 to perform these fixes. All pc300 does is make the process automated. All PC3000 is doing is issuing manufacturer level commands to the drive to initiate these things. It is not impossible to do these things without it; just much more difficult and time consuming. The reason for the price of the pc3000 is that the engineers took the time to do the hard part for you and make a button that will peform that function.

Regards,

Doomer

bigal.nz wrote:

When you post silly answers, I can only assume its because you have no better argument to come back with.

sure, it's because I'm stupid and you not

In fact I am so stupid that I don't ask questions here

guru

Тхат ис веры фунны :О)

BlackST

LOOOL...
Summing up, according to the things we see and drives coming in, people seem really 'internet smart' but definitely 'REALITY STUPID'... Again, welcome money...

bigal.nz · **Joined:** December 23rd, 2008, 2:39 **Posts:** 60

Doomer, BlackST: Out of all this debate lets get one thing clear : are you prepared where possible to help hobbyists, be it in private via PM or in public?

falther

bigal.nz,

Why should they? Why even should they answer this question.

This forum is not ment to be a Q&A forum for hobbyists to pros at all.

It is open, so anybody can follow some interesting topics,... but

...would you do your own hart operation next time, to spare the money to
be spent for a surgeon?

+++

guru

Sadly life is not a "Charity" I would gladly give advice and info for any other topic than the topic that feeds my family.

Note: Some topics I do reply to and I do help via PM sometimes.

Many forums are out there.. DVD Firmware and Satellite forums are great and are truly open to a point. And no one makes money from it and no one relies upon DVD or Sat's work to feed their family and pay for mortgage (if you have one :O) )And I openly contribute and help.

So as you may expect... You ask a "direct" question about how to repair a specific problem (Which has cost us pro's time and in some cases money) which we rely upon to make us money... And you get a somewhat "Specific" reply like

1: Go to a pro
2: You will kill your HDD
3: I will not help because I am busy in my life or busy working.
4: What’s in it for me?

Data recovery needs "HARD EARNED" experience that takes years and even more years to master... And I'm not about to spill my guts to someone who will disappear as soon as we have helped them save $$$$$ and waved their arse's in the air.

You obviously have no idea about reality and think that the Internet is some free Hippies helping each other.. Well wake up and smell the coffee :roll:

bigal.nz · **Joined:** December 23rd, 2008, 2:39 **Posts:** 60

falther wrote:

bigal.nz,

Why should they? Why even should they answer this question.

This forum is not ment to be a Q&A forum for hobbyists to pros at all.

It is open, so anybody can follow some interesting topics,... but

...would you do your own hart operation next time, to spare the money to
be spent for a surgeon?

+++

Wouldnt it be a nice thing to do to help a person who has just lost the photos of there grandmother who died last month (And they cant afford a pro DR).

We are not talking about heart operations, and it really is a silly thing to compare it to.

bigal.nz · **Joined:** December 23rd, 2008, 2:39 **Posts:** 60

guru wrote:

Sadly life is not a "Charity" I would gladly give advice and info for any other topic than the topic that feeds my family.

Note: Some topics I do reply to and I do help via PM sometimes.

You obviously have no idea about reality and think that the Internet is some free Hippies helping each other.. Well wake up and smell the coffee :roll:

Neither the hobbyist, nor your average mum and dad are taking money out of your familys mouth because they arent coming to you anyway!

Admittadly I guess you have no way of telling which category people are in when they post on here, but I guess if they are a first time poster then they may not get the benfit of the doubt.

guru

I work harder and longer on recoveries that contain family photo's that could be lost forever. And quite often lose money on those jobs.

Data recovery engineers do have a "Conscience" and I know from my own experience that other data rec engineers also work harder on family info that is lost forever.

In mosts case's data recovery can be cheaper than getting your car serviced or a new boiler installed.. Some don't care if it costs $500 USD for some twat to install a boiler BUT fall of their chairs at the same cost for data recovery.

People will always hate and be jealous of people who have the knowledge...

"Simples"

(C) Guru

bigal.nz wrote:

guru wrote:

Sadly life is not a "Charity" I would gladly give advice and info for any other topic than the topic that feeds my family.

Note: Some topics I do reply to and I do help via PM sometimes.

You obviously have no idea about reality and think that the Internet is some free Hippies helping each other.. Well wake up and smell the coffee :roll:

Neither the hobbyist, nor your average mum and dad are taking money out of your familys mouth because they arent coming to you anyway!

Admittadly I guess you have no way of telling which category people are in when they post on here, but I guess if they are a first time poster then they may not get the benfit of the doubt.

guru

bigal.nz I think your probably a

1: Hobbyist (Wanting to learn data recovery)
2: Your getting paid for what your doing on the side while you have a job
3: You hate the fact that it will take you a long time to learn this field
4: Your used to freeware and expect the world to keep suppling it
5: You use cracked software and hardly every buy real paid for SW
6: You download movies because "Haaa why rent when you can download"

Anyway thats just a shot in the dark ;o)

bigal.nz · **Joined:** December 23rd, 2008, 2:39 **Posts:** 60

guru wrote:

People will always hate and be jealous of people who have the knowledge...

I dont know you, dont hate you, and jealeous would be the wrong word - envious perhaps. I havent posted too many questions here yet, but what I think I will find frustrating will be the lack of answers.

Nobody has to answer, but I arent taking money out of any of your businesses. Why do i want to know how to use MHDD for example? Just because its interesting, I love to know what it can do. No other reason.

-Al

guru

Hmmm most Mum & Dad's have insurance which covers recovery. And I always help them with engineering reports so they can claim the cash back... That is one of the good things in this job. Happy engineer and happy customer with family photo's back at 0 cost :lol:

bigal.nz wrote:

guru wrote:

Sadly life is not a "Charity" I would gladly give advice and info for any other topic than the topic that feeds my family.

Note: Some topics I do reply to and I do help via PM sometimes.

You obviously have no idea about reality and think that the Internet is some free Hippies helping each other.. Well wake up and smell the coffee :roll:

Neither the hobbyist, nor your average mum and dad are taking money out of your familys mouth because they arent coming to you anyway!

Admittadly I guess you have no way of telling which category people are in when they post on here, but I guess if they are a first time poster then they may not get the benfit of the doubt.

bigal.nz · **Joined:** December 23rd, 2008, 2:39 **Posts:** 60

guru wrote:

bigal.nz I think your probably a

1: Hobbyist (Wanting to learn data recovery)
2: Your getting paid for what your doing on the side while you have a job
3: You hate the fact that it will take you a long time to learn this field
4: Your used to freeware and expect the world to keep suppling it
5: You use cracked software and hardly every buy real paid for SW
6: You download movies because "Haaa why rent when you can download"

Anyway thats just a shot in the dark ;o)

1. True
2. False - never been paid for DR
3. Not in any particular hurry
4. False - I am happy to pay for software and for that reason like to research before I make purchases
5. See 4
7. My prescious little spare time is taken up with computer experiments.

guru

There's a great manual in the files section.

MHDD is pretty neat but I don't ever use it.

bigal.nz wrote:

guru wrote:

People will always hate and be jealous of people who have the knowledge...

I dont know you, dont hate you, and jealeous would be the wrong word - envious perhaps. I havent posted too many questions here yet, but what I think I will find frustrating will be the lack of answers.

Nobody has to answer, but I arent taking money out of any of your businesses. Why do i want to know how to use MHDD for example? Just because its interesting, I love to know what it can do. No other reason.

-Al

guru

haha

;o) Ok OK

bigal.nz wrote:

guru wrote:

bigal.nz I think your probably a

1: Hobbyist (Wanting to learn data recovery)
2: Your getting paid for what your doing on the side while you have a job
3: You hate the fact that it will take you a long time to learn this field
4: Your used to freeware and expect the world to keep suppling it
5: You use cracked software and hardly every buy real paid for SW
6: You download movies because "Haaa why rent when you can download"

Anyway thats just a shot in the dark ;o)

1. True
2. False - never been paid for DR
3. Not in any particular hurry
4. False - I am happy to pay for software and for that reason like to research before I make purchases
5. See 4
7. My prescious little spare time is taken up with computer experiments.

BlackST

bigal.nz wrote:

Wouldnt it be a nice thing to do to help a person who has just lost the photos of there grandmother who died last month (And they cant afford a pro DR).

Once per year, can be and only if I like it, if I have the time and it doesn't hurt me. But BUT THEY HAVE TO SEND THE DRIVE TO ME pickup and return at their own expenses and all the materials and taxes paid (i.e. donor and media as carrier for recovered data) , and have to tell me exactly what folder was. Nothing more. But don't tell me that I have to teach every moron on the net to do it because "can happen that they have to recover such stuff".

bigal.nz · **Joined:** December 23rd, 2008, 2:39 **Posts:** 60

guru wrote:

haha

;o) Ok OK

You clearly dont believe me - but this thread isnt about me.

bigal.nz · **Joined:** December 23rd, 2008, 2:39 **Posts:** 60

BlackST wrote:

bigal.nz wrote:

Wouldnt it be a nice thing to do to help a person who has just lost the photos of there grandmother who died last month (And they cant afford a pro DR).

Once per year, can be and only if I like it, if I have the time and it doesn't hurt me. But BUT THEY HAVE TO SEND THE DRIVE TO ME pickup and return at their own expenses and all the materials and taxes paid (i.e. donor and media as carrier for recovered data) , and have to tell me exactly what folder was. Nothing more. But don't tell me that I have to teach every moron on the net to do it because "can happen that they have to recover such stuff".

Thats very good of you, although I was not nessecarily implying that you do it yourself.

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