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 Post subject: Generic Seagate HDD to NetApp HDD
PostPosted: March 14th, 2019, 11:27 
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The Seagate Drives I have are model ST33000651SS and i'm trying to use them in a NetApp Drive Enclosure. The drives in the NetApp are exactly the same model with 2 differences.

1) Firmware on my “generic” Seagate drives are 0003. The Firmware that should be on the drive is anything between MS00 – MS05 for NetApp
2) The Block size is on my “generic” Seagate drive is 512 bytes and for NetApp to use it, it should be 520bytes. (i have tried formatting the drive with 520 but i set a sense error. i assume its because of the firmware)

My issue is getting the other “new” firmware on the device. I have a copy of the correct firmware. however, it's in a format called DLP and I need it in the LOD format to flash.

Does anyone know how to download firmware from another drive or convert the NetApp DLP firmware file to an LOD file?


I was able to get this done a few years ago, but I don’t remember what I did and the Websites I used have been taken down since then ☹


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 Post subject: Re: Generic Seagate HDD to NetApp HDD
PostPosted: March 14th, 2019, 16:45 
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Can you upload examples, or provide links to examples, of LOD and DLP files for Seagate's SAS drives?

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 Post subject: Re: Generic Seagate HDD to NetApp HDD
PostPosted: March 14th, 2019, 17:00 
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what command are you using to format @ 520 bps? If you haven’t already done it, You may need to change blocksize to 520 before format.

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 Post subject: Re: Generic Seagate HDD to NetApp HDD
PostPosted: March 14th, 2019, 17:27 
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I have tried 2 utilities.

With this command i get a sense error / invalid command.
sg_format --format --size=520

with this utility, it works for about 2 hours and then quits with errors. Then i have media errors on the drive. which are corrected if i reformat.
http://micha.freeshell.org/scsi/


attached is the NetApp Firmware file.


Attachments:
File comment: EXAMPLE SEAGATE FIRMWARE - NOT FOR THIS DRIVE
ConstellationES3-Megalodon-SATA-StdOEM-SN06.zip [969.21 KiB]
Downloaded 8 times
File comment: NetApp Firmware - FOR THIS DRIVE
D_ST33000651SS_4775003_MS05_1600_009.zip [906.12 KiB]
Downloaded 9 times
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 Post subject: Re: Generic Seagate HDD to NetApp HDD
PostPosted: March 14th, 2019, 17:31 
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xdvst8x wrote:
Does anyone know how to download firmware from another drive or convert the NetApp DLP firmware file to an LOD file?

I'm not 100% sure but I think cross-platform FW update is blocked by FW on those drives. In other words you't be able to update FW to NetApp even with LOD format.
But I don't know how DLP is different from LOD

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 Post subject: Re: Generic Seagate HDD to NetApp HDD
PostPosted: March 15th, 2019, 4:00 
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xdvst8x,
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convert the NetApp DLP firmware file to an LOD file

I can, but not for free. If interested, write PM.


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 Post subject: Re: Generic Seagate HDD to NetApp HDD
PostPosted: March 15th, 2019, 5:35 
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ISTM that, to convert DLP to LOD, one would only need to strip the first 0x1A0 bytes from the DLP file (NetApp's header ?). Or am I missing something?

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 Post subject: Re: Generic Seagate HDD to NetApp HDD
PostPosted: March 15th, 2019, 5:46 
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Hello, Frank. 99 to 1 which is not enough. FW is usually checks what is being loaded into hard. Enterprise segment ... big bucks.


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 Post subject: Re: Generic Seagate HDD to NetApp HDD
PostPosted: March 15th, 2019, 10:45 
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i stripped off the first 0x1A0 bytes of the file. Tried flashing and got these errors;

ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Downloads$ sudo hdparm --fwdownload D_ST33000651SS.LOD --yes-i-know-what-i-am-doing --please-destroy-my-drive /dev/sda
/dev/sda:
SG_IO: bad/missing sense data, sb[]: 72 05 20 00 00 00 00 1c 02 06 00 00 cf 00 00 00 03 02 00 01 80 0e 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
SG_IO: bad/missing sense data, sb[]: 72 05 20 00 00 00 00 1c 02 06 00 00 cf 00 00 00 03 02 00 01 80 0e 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

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ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Downloads$ sudo sg_write_buffer -v -m 5 -I D_ST33000651SS.LOD /dev/sg0
tried to read 8388608 bytes from D_ST33000651SS.LOD, got 990640 bytes
will write 990640 bytes
sending single write buffer, mode=0x5, mpsec=0, id=0, offset=0, len=990640
Write buffer cmd: 3b 05 00 00 00 00 0f 1d b0 00
Write buffer:
Descriptor format, current; Sense key: Illegal Request
ASC=26, vendor specific qualification ASCQ=98 (hex)
Descriptor type: Field replaceable unit code: 0x0
Descriptor type: Vendor specific [0x80]
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Write buffer failed: Illegal request sense key, apart from Invalid opcode


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 Post subject: Re: Generic Seagate HDD to NetApp HDD
PostPosted: March 15th, 2019, 19:21 
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Checksum mismatch error

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 Post subject: Re: Generic Seagate HDD to NetApp HDD
PostPosted: March 18th, 2019, 20:18 
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i had removed the first 0x1A0 bytes from the dlp file. guys that isnt correct...


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 Post subject: Re: Generic Seagate HDD to NetApp HDD
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I am in the same boat trying to get some referb 900GB ST9900805SS drives to work in a NetApp E5400 array.
the array only accepts drive firmware that start with MS or NE
I can clear the drive lockout in the array manually on the array serial console, but once one of the controllers reboots it relocks out the drive (it also will not write a DacStore to the drive because it is uncertified) [if interested i can give instructions on how to do this, but it seems like a bad idea to use outside a test lab]

I'm have been unsucessful in moding the ST9900805SS stock 0004 firmware to report MS04 or getting the NetApp MS04/MS07 dlp firmware flashed.
I've pulled off the NetApp header from the dlp files but the drive does not accept the firmware.
I've tried modifiying the DLP file to match the 0004 firmware and try to have the NetApp array download the firmware and it fails.

I did get my drive to Protection Type 2 (NetApp calls this "Data Assurance") using
Code:
SeaChest_Format -d /dev/sgXX --protectionType 2 --formatUnit 512


does anyone have any experience or guidance in modifying the seagate LOD to report a different firmware revision?
is there a way to modify the firmware revision using the drive ttl console?
preferably I'd love a way to flash the official MS07 firmware onto the drive.


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 Post subject: Re: Generic Seagate HDD to NetApp HDD
PostPosted: Yesterday, 4:38 
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Everything is possible... It is possible to make a patch that can be loaded in hard by free utilites. There is no free way to do this patch by free utilities.


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 Post subject: Re: Generic Seagate HDD to NetApp HDD
PostPosted: Yesterday, 16:08 
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what non-free tools are needed to modify a LOD file?
hdparm does not seem to be usable to hard load firmware on these drives because they are SAS and do not talk AHCI/SATA, what tools would you use to hard load the firmware?


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 Post subject: Re: Generic Seagate HDD to NetApp HDD
PostPosted: Today, 2:15 
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cypher497,
Well, let me teach you. Ask the google: seagate+firmware+update+for+sas.
First link.
What non-free utility need to patch loader? You misunderstood me. I don't know commercial utilities either. I wanted to say: do not try to look for freebies in this matter. There is not. 100%. But... With knowledge of how the firmware is arranged, you can get patch by free WinHex.


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 Post subject: Re: Generic Seagate HDD to NetApp HDD
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Some light reading (for SATA, but may be relevant to SAS also) …

Analysis of Seagate F3 Firmware Update:
http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=816

Analysis of Seagate F3 ROM:
http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=2173

ZOC scripts - Seagate LOD files parsing :
http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=113&t=815

Seagate CRC calculator:
http://www.hddoracle.com/download/file.php?id=5842

Python Script to Calculate Seagate F3 Checksums :
http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=109&t=1821

Seagate F3 loader tool :
http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1809

F3romExplorer :
http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=2534

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