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 Post subject: Re: Solution for 7200.11 Hard disk
PostPosted: December 21st, 2008, 3:52 
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You could have done it yourself with a little intelect ;O) with out the need to use other peoples research IMHO.

Some of what works on 7200.11 I have been using for years on Bar IV > etc :idea:

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 Post subject: Re: Solution for 7200.11 Hard disk
PostPosted: December 24th, 2008, 19:35 
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I'm another victim of ST3500320AS, 500GB SATA Seagate Barracuda 7200.11.Suddenly it did not work: problem 0GB or LED CC. I lost a lot of time looking for a solution to repair it. I'm electronic engineer and I hope to find a solution early. I have built a 3-wire serial interface and have found a lot of information.
I know some steps and I have some ideas (unscrew screws, hyperterminal, screw screws, S.M.A.R.T. checking, translator and format repair of SA (can DiscWizard Start Edition works?)
I need help to ..


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 Post subject: Re: Solution for 7200.11 Hard disk
PostPosted: December 24th, 2008, 21:49 
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Hi Pichi,
There is no solutions for end users, i suggest you to send it to Data Recovery company near you.


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 Post subject: Re: Solution for 7200.11 Hard disk
PostPosted: December 24th, 2008, 23:34 
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I'm not going to pay for recovering one thing that is mine, I haven't to send my private data to anyone.
And I think that nobody should pay for a programming error firmware (intentional or not).
There are only 3 companies in the world that can recover it, and one of them is the manufacturer himself (I think ... "I build the problem and sell the solution" is a good business).


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 Post subject: Re: Solution for 7200.11 Hard disk
PostPosted: December 25th, 2008, 0:43 
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I remember that DiscWizard wrote in my unformattable hard disc the first time. Later, it appeared with 500 GB, one partition and formattable. Can anybody say the previous parameters of a "totally new HDD" without DiscWizard? I do not remember if it appeared with 0GB or not?
Is DiscWizard the traslator that writes SA?
Does DW format the HDD?, or only writes SA and MBR to create the partition?
Is there a computer engeneer that want help?
Thanks from Spain


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 Post subject: Re: Solution for 7200.11 Hard disk
PostPosted: December 25th, 2008, 0:52 
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Happy Christmas for all people!


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 Post subject: Re: Solution for 7200.11 Hard disk
PostPosted: December 25th, 2008, 1:16 
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Seagate DiscWizard and Maxtor MaxBlast 5 are essentially same piece of software which is an OEM version of Acronis True Image 10 Home edition version 10.0.0.5077.


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 Post subject: Re: Solution for 7200.11 Hard disk
PostPosted: December 25th, 2008, 1:21 
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Unfortunately you have to invest keeping data risk.
No stand alone software will solve your issue. Need HW-SW Complex.
And obviously not like NEXT > NEXT > FINISH. Experiment...
Above written one is your desired solution as you want to deal yourself.

Secondly, Risk Free Solution is to go to Professional. Most of the Data Recovery Pro all over the world can solve the issue for you.

Good Luck

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 Post subject: Re: Solution for 7200.11 Hard disk
PostPosted: December 25th, 2008, 3:42 
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Pichi, unfortunately your degree in engineering doesn't repair your HDD. You don't know what a translator or SA are - according to your posts. The info you need has value in the hundreds of thousand $ or €. Too much for a Christmas gift. You can buy Pc3000 UDMA and, knowing what to do, repair or try repairing your drive. It will cost you less than 10.000€ including the support fee. Or, option #3, live without the drive. Put it on a drawer so your private data is safe - btw. do you think a pro dr has the time to sniff in your files?. Stop begging for free solutions. Find yourself as many of us - who do dr and research for a living - have found before commercial tools were available. If your knowledge is not sufficient, admit it and buy what it takes or leave the job to a pro. Haven't you paid the books and university fees, or have you studied on emuled pdf's ? Merry Xmas.


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 Post subject: Re: Solution for 7200.11 Hard disk
PostPosted: December 25th, 2008, 17:14 
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Pc3000 UDMA kit is very expensive.
Although I have the integrated circuits (Spartan FPGA, memory and CPLD) use them aren't practical.
I have Silicon Image Sil3114 PCI target, it cost me 10€ in ebay.
Datasheets: http://www.siliconimage.com/docs/SiI-DS-0103-D.pdf
Windows and Linux drivers.


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 Post subject: Re: Solution for 7200.11 Hard disk
PostPosted: December 25th, 2008, 17:18 
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And what do you do with them?


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 Post subject: Re: Solution for 7200.11 Hard disk
PostPosted: December 26th, 2008, 7:17 
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pichi wrote:
I'm not going to pay for recovering one thing that is mine, I haven't to send my private data to anyone.
And I think that nobody should pay for a programming error firmware (intentional or not).
There are only 3 companies in the world that can recover it, and one of them is the manufacturer himself (I think ... "I build the problem and sell the solution" is a good business).


Dont want to spend money? Paranoid in sending to data rec. company? then sit at home watch and play with Santa Claus!


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 Post subject: Re: Solution for 7200.11 Hard disk
PostPosted: December 26th, 2008, 10:48 
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pichi wrote:
I'm not going to pay for recovering one thing that is mine,

It seems like info on a drive is not important to you.

pichi wrote:
(I think ... "I build the problem and sell the solution" is a good business).

Let me see.... you would not pay for pro service, but would love to be helped for free and profit from it.
Super approach!

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 Post subject: Re: Solution for 7200.11 Hard disk
PostPosted: December 26th, 2008, 12:26 
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Oh no. We owe to people THAT much... Come on, post the solution, don't be greedy...


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 Post subject: Re: Solution for 7200.11 Hard disk
PostPosted: December 26th, 2008, 15:18 
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just us hard drive spray, it will fix the drive in seconds.


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 Post subject: Re: Solution for 7200.11 Hard disk
PostPosted: December 26th, 2008, 16:01 
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Spray ? you mean D.D.T. ? It is intended for the users, not for the HDDs.


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 Post subject: Re: Solution for 7200.11 Hard disk
PostPosted: December 27th, 2008, 20:13 
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Hey all,

Someone mentioned the vendors ACElabs and SalvationData. I am just curious what a few of the other companies are that provide Hardware/Software recovery suites? Preferably in English.. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Solution for 7200.11 Hard disk
PostPosted: December 28th, 2008, 1:10 
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RTFf that is what i can suggest. Ask BlackST what RTFf means :D *hint Read the F f*


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 Post subject: Re: Solution for 7200.11 Hard disk
PostPosted: December 28th, 2008, 1:51 
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fatlip, I know two more competitiors: BVG Group with HRT and Atola product by Dmitry Postrigan
I'm not using none of them (BVG, AceLab, SalvationData or Atola) to fix drives' firmware, so I cannot tell which one is better to fix SA problems.
As I see Atola has very user-friendly interface and interactive problem detection (non of the competitors has such a feature)
AceLab has good background. They have very experienced engineers (but don't have professional developers and they defenitely have problems with English language in their utilities)
BVG looks dying for me
SalvationData - I would say I wouldn't buy their products - I don't like user interface and capabilities

So far the best data copy utility for me is AceLab DE (it looks very balanced for me)
I would say HRT from BVG has crappy copier
DiskCompass from SD and Atola from Dmitry they use USB boxes and seems like they have some limited capabilities:
1. It's imposssible? to set up waiting time less than 1 second (this one is a big flaw for me)
2. USB box will not give you full speed (especially if you planning to connect your own USB drives )
3. They have one channel (DE has two)
I also used DeepSpare - it's OK but not flexible for sure, kinda not user-friendly, has limited capabilities and one channel also

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 Post subject: Re: Solution for 7200.11 Hard disk
PostPosted: December 28th, 2008, 6:34 
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Hi.
I use DE for Cloning as it has excellent capability it can recover the data from a specific head if one or more head are having problem (but disk is detecting) with its head mapping capability as for other I don't know if they have this feature.

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