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 Post subject: SingleTrace technology Generic solution to all drivers.
PostPosted: October 22nd, 2005, 9:50 
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ActionFront's "SingleTrace technology recover each bit individually independent of the drive's specific hardware " How much truth is this ?

Will such technology will work ?


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PostPosted: October 22nd, 2005, 10:39 
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This is true. And it works :-)


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PostPosted: October 23rd, 2005, 8:47 
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SignalTrace removes all variables from the data recovery process. Eliminating the original manufacturer's PCB is smart, because those controllers and firmware are often not designed to recover from many fault conditions. Using SignalTrace, if the platters will spin and the heads will move, the data will be read. And that, my friend, is the Holy Grail of data recovery.

But how much $$$ will ActionFront charge for this service? And will it ever become practical for common use? Those are good questions.


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 Post subject: Cost of DATA
PostPosted: October 23rd, 2005, 9:25 
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It all depend on that how important is the data, like a space expedition it cost in $$$$$$$$???? and if they had crashed their hard disk thay will be very happy if their data in any case recovrable it dont matter how much it cost them.


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 Post subject: SingleTrace
PostPosted: October 23rd, 2005, 13:36 
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Hi all,

Are AF people come out with commercial
version of SingleTrace or only for their Recovery LAb only ?

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Its proprietary only.. but the costs aren't that bad. As a partner (pricing wise) it still will scare off 90% of your customers, but its a good resource for critical customers

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 Post subject: Drive Models
PostPosted: October 24th, 2005, 2:14 
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I doubt in practical use of this technology. As far as i know AF people has been able to implement it only for one of the WD drive model. Every drive has different structure. So it would need a different implementation of the technology.

So how much practical use of the technology ? So, from my point of view it was a hard work by them and it shows they are really good at R&D, but i think they can use it as a marketing stunt rather than a data recovery tool in their lab.

Correct me if i am wrong ?

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PostPosted: October 24th, 2005, 12:36 
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maysoft wrote:
This is true. And it works :-)


Works? What about for IBM DTLA, multihead Quantum AS+ etc. :roll:

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 Post subject: Any Response
PostPosted: October 25th, 2005, 1:41 
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i think maysoft can put some light on it ............


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IMHO the answer is
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PostPosted: October 26th, 2005, 22:20 
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they had it on one HDD which was pre-programmed :)

I think that was only an advertising :)


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PostPosted: October 27th, 2005, 14:26 
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yoyo
Could you give us more details, what exactly we pre-programmed? :-)


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 Post subject: singletrace
PostPosted: October 28th, 2005, 9:56 
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No yoyo,
as far as i have studied the docs about this technology, the technology looks valid. There should not be and perhaps can't be anything like pre-programmed. The only question is :- Is it possible to implement it in daily life for data recovery for every make, family and model of the drives ???????????


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 Post subject: Re: SingleTrace technology Generic solution to all drivers.
PostPosted: October 28th, 2005, 13:04 
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nainesh wrote:
ActionFront's "SingleTrace technology recover each bit individually independent of the drive's specific hardware " How much truth is this ?

Will such technology will work ?


Nainesh


I think it's just another way to market their servises. Has AF designed something universal that can replace ROM and adaptives that are inside of the PCB?
AF is a very reputable company and has very smart engineers, however, do not forget that in North America it's not just a matter of being smart, but how you advertise yourself. So, having said that, I believe that AF writes these kind of white papers just to attract people. I hope I am wrong and I'd be happy to know that single trace tech really exists, however... being in data recovery field for so many years... it's hard to believe.

It's like a universal magic tool. :)
I have a super scanner with the microscope at home, and I simply place the disk platters on the glass of the scanner and scan them. Then I use logical recovery software to interpret the bits into files. LOL :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: SingleTrace technology Generic solution to all drivers.
PostPosted: October 28th, 2005, 14:19 
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hddpro wrote:
I think it's just another way to market their servises. Has AF designed something universal that can replace ROM and adaptives that are inside of the PCB?
AF is a very reputable company and has very smart engineers, however, do not forget that in North America it's not just a matter of being smart, but how you advertise yourself. So, having said that, I believe that AF writes these kind of white papers just to attract people. I hope I am wrong and I'd be happy to know that single trace tech really exists, however... being in data recovery field for so many years... it's hard to believe.

It's like a universal magic tool. :)
I have a super scanner with the microscope at home, and I simply place the disk platters on the glass of the scanner and scan them. Then I use logical recovery software to interpret the bits into files. LOL :lol:


I dont know what single trace is, but SignalTrace is real and it works. The whitepaper contains outdated information on which drives it works on (it was writen more then a year ago) It supports several current high capacity drives and support for more models is always being worked on.


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 Post subject: SingleTrace commercial vesion????
PostPosted: October 28th, 2005, 15:13 
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Hi All ,

Anybody knows when AF comes out with
commercial version ??

Nainesh


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 Post subject: Never
PostPosted: October 29th, 2005, 3:30 
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In short, Never !!

Never a commercial version will be available !!

Its a fact, you can ask Nick.

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 Post subject: Re: Never
PostPosted: November 3rd, 2005, 8:37 
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gurudev wrote:
In short, Never !!

Never a commercial version will be available !!

Its a fact, you can ask Nick.

regards



I think they have some problems. Each time they use WD drives why not show us another drive maker? ;) must be a reason for this, maybe inside information from WD ex WD engineer ... :O) Most manufacturers have this technology anyway in their R&D labs.....

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