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 Post subject: Samsung RAID LIF 128GB SSD, any adaptor for it?????
PostPosted: January 31st, 2011, 12:48 
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Does anyone know how to connect this customised made LIF interface to a normal SATA/IDE/USB?

This LIF interface is slightly wider than the LIF used in the SSD of MAC book Air.

Model: RAID LIF 128GB MLC

It is from a Sony laptop.


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 Post subject: Re: Samsung RAID LIF 128GB SSD, any adaptor for it?????
PostPosted: January 31st, 2011, 13:58 
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The answer is in your ribbon cable

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 Post subject: Re: Samsung RAID LIF 128GB SSD, any adaptor for it?????
PostPosted: February 1st, 2011, 4:38 
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Zif cable and scissors will help :)

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 Post subject: Re: Samsung RAID LIF 128GB SSD, any adaptor for it?????
PostPosted: February 1st, 2011, 5:06 
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drc wrote:
The answer is in your ribbon cable


The ribbon cable is used to connect to two SSD drives and the motherboard of the laptop. They are not in a standard LIF size. It is impossible to use this cable for DR purpose.


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 Post subject: Re: Samsung RAID LIF 128GB SSD, any adaptor for it?????
PostPosted: February 1st, 2011, 8:20 
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tckin wrote:
drc wrote:
The answer is in your ribbon cable


They are not in a standard LIF size.


As for me, usual Lif interface . Has it 24 pins like samsung HS12UHE?
Or 20 pins like 1" seagates?


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 Post subject: Re: Samsung RAID LIF 128GB SSD, any adaptor for it?????
PostPosted: February 1st, 2011, 8:38 
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It is a 25pins (width=1.1cm) interface on the SSD drive.

It has double layer. On the other side of it, there is another controller and 8 memory chips.

They share one output interface, as shown.


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 Post subject: Re: Samsung RAID LIF 128GB SSD, any adaptor for it?????
PostPosted: February 1st, 2011, 10:19 
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It seems to me this was wrote before:
Check pinouts:
There are 24 pins on the 1.8 sata-LIF connector.
Pin 2,3 : 3.3V
Pin 8: DAS (Device Active Signal)
Pin 11,12: A+ /A- Differential Signal Pair A
Pin 14,15: B- /B+ Differential Signal Pair B
Pin 1,4,7,9,10,13,16,17,24 : GND


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 Post subject: Re: Samsung RAID LIF 128GB SSD, any adaptor for it?????
PostPosted: February 1st, 2011, 10:21 
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tckin wrote:
drc wrote:
The answer is in your ribbon cable
They are not in a standard LIF size. It is impossible to use this cable for DR purpose.

I didn't say they were, or suggest that you were going to plug that cable directly into anything. Maybe you should put your "DR research engineer"ing skills to work and think of a more creative solution.

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 Post subject: Re: Samsung RAID LIF 128GB SSD, any adaptor for it?????
PostPosted: February 1st, 2011, 10:36 
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Yes, I think I will try to sort something out by bridging the connector. I saw the pictures before.

The difficulty of this kind of SSD drive is, a single PCB single output interface shares with two SSDs. If you turn over the PCB in the picture, there is another set of controller and memory.

I notice there are 4 pairs of differential signal instead of 2 pairs on all the connector you suggested. I think I need to figure out which 2 pairs belong to one SSD firstly.

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 Post subject: Re: Samsung RAID LIF 128GB SSD, any adaptor for it?????
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tckin wrote:
The difficulty of this kind of SSD drive is, a single PCB single output interface shares with two SSDs. If you turn over the PCB in the picture, there is another set of controller and memory.

I notice there are 4 pairs of differential signal instead of 2 pairs on all the connector you suggested. I think I need to figure out which 2 pairs belong to one SSD firstly.

ISTM that the layout of each SATA Tx/Rx pair is obvious in this photo:
download/file.php?id=3123&mode=view

The middle two pairs go to the controller in the photo, whereas the end pairs appear to connect to the bottom controller via the plated through holes near the top left corner of the top controller. The group of 6 pins at the end of the connector are either grounds or a +3.3V supply, and probably vice versa for the adjacent 5 pins.

There needs to be a +1.8V supply for the SDRAM, but I can't identify it from the photos.

K4X1G323PD-8GC6, Samsung, SDRAM, 32M x 32, 1Gb, MMSDDDR, 1.8V, 8K refresh:
http://www.datasheetarchive.com/pdf/Dat ... 038979.pdf

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 Post subject: Re: Samsung RAID LIF 128GB SSD, any adaptor for it?????
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i can custom adapter for this special TSOP56 NAND FLash chip connect with all type reader. any one need please feel free to contact me by email or Skype. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Samsung RAID LIF 128GB SSD, any adaptor for it?????
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Any progress? I have the same drive and need to connect it to SATA. Maybe someone knows the pinout? Or how can I determine the pinout of this fake 25-pins SATA-LIF without burning it out :roll: ? Please, help.


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 Post subject: Re: Samsung RAID LIF 128GB SSD, any adaptor for it?????
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w1ne wrote:
Any progress? I have the same drive and need to connect it to SATA. Maybe someone knows the pinout? Or how can I determine the pinout of this fake 25-pins SATA-LIF without burning it out :roll: ? Please, help.


PM me ,if you are still interested in this. I had one identical case before.


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 Post subject: Re: Samsung RAID LIF 128GB SSD, any adaptor for it?????
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I also got the same problem. Anyone manage to access the SSD from a SATA connection?


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 Post subject: Re: Samsung RAID LIF 128GB SSD, any adaptor for it?????
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I have the same drive and a broken Sony laptop. I'd love to connect the drive up to another computer and read the contents. Anyone find a way to do this?


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 Post subject: Re: Samsung RAID LIF 128GB SSD, any adaptor for it?????
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book14 wrote:
w1ne wrote:
Any progress? I have the same drive and need to connect it to SATA. Maybe someone knows the pinout? Or how can I determine the pinout of this fake 25-pins SATA-LIF without burning it out :roll: ? Please, help.


PM me ,if you are still interested in this. I had one identical case before.


Hi,i have two of the same Samsung SSD and need to connect to PC,please contact me for the case aydin.kamis@gmail.com


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 Post subject: Re: Samsung RAID LIF 128GB SSD, any adaptor for it?????
PostPosted: September 1st, 2012, 6:14 
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It is Slim USATA not LIF
pin 1 17 20 23 26 should be G
Pin 3-13 is 3.3V (try to use the 1117 to regenerate the 3.3V instead of 5V
the 18-19 21-22 is the Front Side SATA Signal
and the 24-25 27-28 is the Back Side Sata Signal.

If you connect the capacitor of the Back side , remember to reverse like the picture attached.


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 Post subject: Re: Samsung RAID LIF 128GB SSD, any adaptor for it?????
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I got some PM. So I decide to put the picture.
This is for this PCB we disscussed. And the previous picture I attached is another layout.
Be sure to USE 3.3V


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 Post subject: Re: Samsung RAID LIF 128GB SSD, any adaptor for it?????
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Have one of these as well (256GB).

Any suggestions as to what NOT to do in order to avoid wasting time on such drives?

PMs are welcome if anybody feels like today is Sunday.

Thanks in advance.

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 Post subject: Re: Samsung RAID LIF 128GB SSD, any adaptor for it?????
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labtech wrote:
Have one of these as well (256GB).

Any suggestions as to what NOT to do in order to avoid wasting time on such drives?

PMs are welcome if anybody feels like today is Sunday.

Thanks in advance.


Forgot to update. Was able to recover the data two days ago.
Case closed.

I appreciate the individual who sent the one PM.

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