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WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0

June 29th, 2017, 11:32

Hello!
I have received the drive in topic (WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0 - FireBird - 2060-771801-002) with completely fried ROM and 2 missing legs. :)

I have connected ROM IC to programmer but unfortunately, all I get in hex is (FF).
I have tried several ROM's and LDR's but no luck. No access to SA to determine the correct version of original ROM.

Any suggestions would be highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0

June 29th, 2017, 13:58

unknown wrote:Hello!
I have received the drive in topic (WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0 - FireBird - 2060-771801-002) with completely fried ROM and 2 missing legs. :)

I have connected ROM IC to programmer but unfortunately, all I get in hex is (FF).
I have tried several ROM's and LDR's but no luck. No access to SA to determine the correct version of original ROM.

Any suggestions would be highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.


Firebird have unique data in ROM in module 4F, so you'll need the original ROM.

Maybe someone can access the damaged ROM. I very much doubt it's "fried", more like someone tried to switch it to another PCB and broke it :-(

I suggest you contact Allan in Denmark - user "digisupport"

Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0

June 29th, 2017, 14:11

pcimage wrote:I very much doubt it's "fried", more like someone tried to switch it to another PCB and broke it

Yes that's what happened as the customer told me :(
Thanks for reply Mr. Sean.

Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0

June 29th, 2017, 16:55

Here's the drive front label.
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Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0

July 1st, 2017, 4:39

Better to contact user Spildit, it is not a problem for him at all.

Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0

July 1st, 2017, 14:50

Martin wrote:Better to contact user Spildit, it is not a problem for him at all.


It is a problem.

Firebird have unique data in ROM in module 4F as stated.

Also if you have external ROM then there are no copy of ROM modules and 4F on platter.

You may want to try "hot swap" but most likely it will not work as well ...

Maybe you should try some more combinations of ROM/Module 11 and pray ?

Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0

July 1st, 2017, 15:05

Spildit wrote:
Martin wrote:Better to contact user Spildit, it is not a problem for him at all.


It is a problem.

Firebird have unique data in ROM in module 4F as stated.

Also if you have external ROM then there are no copy of ROM modules and 4F on platter.

You may want to try "hot swap" but most likely it will not work as well ...

Maybe you should try some more combinations of ROM/Module 11 and pray ?

Thanks for the reply. :)
I am keeping try several ROM's and LDR's. :)

Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0

July 2nd, 2017, 2:55

Post a picture of your damaged rom chip. Many "slaughtered" chips can still be accessed.

Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0

July 2nd, 2017, 9:09

The guy applied too much heat already
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Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0

July 2nd, 2017, 12:46

Wow, too much heat indeed!

Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0

July 2nd, 2017, 13:00

And that kids, is why you never use a flamethrower to remove a ROM chip :lol:

This is exactly what's wrong with people doing DIY recovery.

Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0

July 2nd, 2017, 14:38

pcimage wrote:Wow, too much heat indeed!

I told you :)

data-medics wrote:And that kids, is why you never use a flamethrower to remove a ROM chip :lol:

This is exactly what's wrong with people doing DIY recovery.

I don't know if the customer did it by himself or someone else really did it. :)

Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0

July 2nd, 2017, 14:50

Did you try hot swap ?

Any luck ?

Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0

July 2nd, 2017, 15:01

unknown wrote:
pcimage wrote:Wow, too much heat indeed!

I told you :)

data-medics wrote:And that kids, is why you never use a flamethrower to remove a ROM chip :lol:

This is exactly what's wrong with people doing DIY recovery.

I don't know if the customer did it by himself or someone else really did it. :)


There is another way to get info. Does not always work but is possible

Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0

July 2nd, 2017, 15:11

Spildit wrote:Did you try hot swap ?

Any luck ?

Unfortunately, I don't have a matched donor

Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0

July 2nd, 2017, 15:12

scratchy wrote:
unknown wrote:
pcimage wrote:Wow, too much heat indeed!

I told you :)

data-medics wrote:And that kids, is why you never use a flamethrower to remove a ROM chip :lol:

This is exactly what's wrong with people doing DIY recovery.

I don't know if the customer did it by himself or someone else really did it. :)


There is another way to get info. Does not always work but is possible

Can you please share it?

Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0

July 2nd, 2017, 20:51

unknown wrote:I am keeping try several ROM's and LDR's. :)

Could you upload your collection of ROMs or 4F modules? I'm curious as to how they differ from other families.

Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0

July 3rd, 2017, 3:38

unknown wrote:The guy applied too much heat already


Auch, reading out that one is not an option any more.

Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0

July 3rd, 2017, 4:20

List here the ROM ver.`s you tried and did not work
to avoid sending the same files back

Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0

July 3rd, 2017, 7:33

einstein9 wrote:List here the ROM ver.`s you tried and did not work
to avoid sending the same files back

Thanks for trying to help my friend. :)
Here we go:
00030078
00030080
00030052
00030038
00030044
0003004A
0003001U
0003003V
0003006G
With matched loader for every LDR. (with/without SA Blocked)

digisupport wrote:
unknown wrote:The guy applied too much heat already


Auch, reading out that one is not an option any more.

Unfortunately. :( ( all I get for every time trying to read anything is FF)

fzabkar wrote:
unknown wrote:I am keeping try several ROM's and LDR's. :)

Could you upload your collection of ROMs or 4F modules? I'm curious as to how they differ from other families.

Thanks for trying to help Mr. Frank.
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