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 Post subject: Re: Is there a compatible SATA PCB for 2060-800041-003? WD40
PostPosted: August 16th, 2017, 5:10 
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Hi,
The PCB model is the same as the Pebble (2060-800022-000 REV P2)
The only difference is the amount of RAM

Mikippp

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Version................................. : 0x0002
Controller firmware revision............ : 01.4PP
Servo firmware revision................. : 02.78
Overlay firmware revision............... : 01.4QP
Surface format revision................. : EX.076
Read channel firmware revision.......... : A1.74000
Drive type.............................. : Mobile 2.5 Inch
Interface type.......................... : Serial ATA
PCBA type............................... : Entek rev 0
ROM type................................ : Serial Flash
Flash size (page size).................. : 512 (4) kB
DRAM size (allocated)................... : 131072 (95581) kB

Drive Parts Information
Controller chip vendor.................. : 0x0000
Controller chip revision................ : 0x5450 88i1047F0
MicroP vendor........................... : 0x0000
MicroP revision......................... : 0x5450
Channel chip vendor..................... : 0x001A
Channel chip revision................... : 0x0020
Preamp vendor........................... : 0x0000
Preamp revision......................... : 0x0001
Power chip vendor....................... : 0x0000
Power chip revision..................... : 0x8320


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 Post subject: Re: Is there a compatible SATA PCB for 2060-800041-003? WD40
PostPosted: August 16th, 2017, 5:13 
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Thx Miki,

I am interested in the OP's pcbs, especially the PN of the controller, which is not visible on your photo btw.

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 Post subject: Re: Is there a compatible SATA PCB for 2060-800041-003? WD40
PostPosted: August 16th, 2017, 5:20 
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SoC is the same

Drive Info Table from Pebbleb

Mikippp
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Version................................. : 0x0002
Controller firmware revision............ : 01.32C
Servo firmware revision................. : D3.08
Overlay firmware revision............... : 01.33C
Surface format revision................. : A1.002
Read channel firmware revision.......... : G.00010A
Drive type.............................. : Mobile 2.5 Inch
Interface type.......................... : Serial ATA
PCBA type............................... : Entek rev 0
ROM type................................ : Serial Flash
Flash size (page size).................. : 512 (4) kB
DRAM size (allocated)................... : 65536 (55665) kB

Drive Parts Information
Controller chip vendor.................. : 0x0000
Controller chip revision................ : 0x5450 88i1047F0
MicroP vendor........................... : 0x0000
MicroP revision......................... : 0x5450
Channel chip vendor..................... : 0x001A
Channel chip revision................... : 0x0020
Preamp vendor........................... : 0x0001
Preamp revision......................... : 0x0003
Power chip vendor....................... : 0x0000
Power chip revision..................... : 0x8320

Drive Build Information
Product ID (Ext)........................ : 0x16FE (0x025A)
Model................................... : WDC WD30NMVW-11C3NS2


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 Post subject: Re: Is there a compatible SATA PCB for 2060-800041-003? WD40
PostPosted: August 16th, 2017, 16:50 
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Would the following combination work?

    donor (SATA) PCB + patient adaptives + donor loader

Otherwise, could it be that the patient's ROM code really needs to find 128MB of RAM? Or could it be that the MCU can communicate directly with the bridge via additional pins and, if so, could it be that the patient's ROM is checking for the presence of the bridge???

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 Post subject: Re: Is there a compatible SATA PCB for 2060-800041-003? WD40
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 Post subject: Re: Is there a compatible SATA PCB for 2060-800041-003? WD40
PostPosted: August 17th, 2017, 4:00 
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Thx Brian.

I have a couple of ideas but nothing for sure.
As Franc said it might be checking the presence of the bridge. Or there might be some config resistor mismatch.
you could check state sector and see if it gives some clue as well.
Or use donor fw and write patient specific rom modules to flash.

that's all for now.
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 Post subject: Re: Is there a compatible SATA PCB for 2060-800041-003? WD40
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I wonder where these pins go. Perhaps they go to the 12-pin connector, or maybe they connect to the MCU.


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 Post subject: Re: Is there a compatible SATA PCB for 2060-800041-003? WD40
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u mean the bridge?

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 Post subject: Re: Is there a compatible SATA PCB for 2060-800041-003? WD40
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Hi,
The PCB model in SATA Spyglass is the same as in the Pebble (2060-800022-000 REV P2)
The only difference is the amount of DRAM !!!

DRAM size (allocated)................... : 131072 (95581) kB -> Spyglass
DRAM size (allocated)................... : 65536 (55665) kB -> Pebble

PCB from Pebble in Spyglass is NOT working
PCB from Spyglass in Pebble is working OK

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 Post subject: Re: Is there a compatible SATA PCB for 2060-800041-003? WD40
PostPosted: August 18th, 2017, 14:26 
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I would say that ROM code checks RAM size or tries to load code past the limit of available RAM or whatever ....

As experimentation and to make sure what is causing the "incompatibilty" i would move a DRAM chip from Spyglass PCB to donor Pebble PCB and try on Spyglass (with native Spyglass ROM).

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 Post subject: Re: Is there a compatible SATA PCB for 2060-800041-003? WD40
PostPosted: August 23rd, 2017, 1:13 
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List of compatible WD SATA PCB for 2,5" USB drives :

USB ------ SATA

701605 - 701499
701615 - 701499
701650 - 701499
701675 - 701672
771737 - 701692 771692
771754 - 701692
771761 - 771692
771801 - 771823
771814 - 771820
771949 - 771959
771961 - 771960 771939 not compatible--771959
771962 - 771931 771959


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 Post subject: Re: Is there a compatible SATA PCB for 2060-800041-003? WD40
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 Post subject: Re: Is there a compatible SATA PCB for 2060-800041-003? WD40
PostPosted: August 23rd, 2017, 12:45 
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bcometa wrote:

Note: when writing a "4TB ROM" to a SATA PCB from a 3TB drive, I just get BSY light (no spin).


Yeah, a ROM from a 4 TB Spyglass won't work on a Pebble Beach, even though the PCB numbers are identical.

As a random aside, Spyglass uses a shingled data topology, whereas Pebble Beach does not.

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 Post subject: Re: Is there a compatible SATA PCB for 2060-800041-003? WD40
PostPosted: September 4th, 2017, 21:27 
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Case closed (customer canceled service).

BUT... I found a 4TB SATA drive on eBay and it worked for the next 4TB USB we got in with firmware corruption.

This working SATA board PCB number is "2060-800022-001 rev p1."

One more donor drive still availabel on eBay, if anyone wants to prepare for the future:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Western-Digital ... 2749.l2649

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 Post subject: Re: Is there a compatible SATA PCB for 2060-800041-003? WD40
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I can confirm with jono-ats that the reason for the non-spin up and BSY, despite the match on the MCU and motor controller, is because of the subtle difference the PCB revision relating to Pebble Beach vs SpyGlass.

I have been working on a failed 4TB which uses the 2060-800041-003 REV P1. I was able to obtain a 3TB SATA which used 2060-800022-000 REV P2. This SATA PCB was no good despite having an identical match on the MCU and motor controller. As per the original post the drive would not spin and enter BSY.

Shortly after receiving the first 3TB USB disk I had another failed 3TB USB disk in. This time using 2060-800041-000 REV P1. Almost identical PCB layout to the -003 REV P1. One obvious difference, the -003 uses an Asmedia USB processor and the -000 uses a JM USB processor. Inspection of the ROM content of each showed the same in size, and content looking very similar. The donor SATA PCB worked normally for this revision.

Looks like a 4TB SATA disk shall be required too!

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 Post subject: Re: Is there a compatible SATA PCB for 2060-800041-003? WD40
PostPosted: September 20th, 2017, 16:21 
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cheadledatarecovery wrote:
I can confirm with jono-ats that the reason for the non-spin up and BSY, despite the match on the MCU and motor controller, is because of the subtle difference the PCB revision relating to Pebble Beach vs SpyGlass.

Did you compare the SDRAM (as per Mikippp's post)?

ISTM that the p/n on the PCB would reflect the artwork rather than the componentry. For example, I believe that the Asmedia and JMicron bridges are pin compatible, which means that they would function identically if installed on either PCB version. Instead I would think that the (variable) component configuration would be reflected in the stickered information.

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 Post subject: Re: Is there a compatible SATA PCB for 2060-800041-003? WD40
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I can confirm that the donor Pebble Beach PCB is using the following:

DRAM size (allocated)................... : 65536 (55664) kB

Due to the fault on the SpyGlass 4TB Usb PCB it has not been possible to access the SA fully to confirm the DRAM allocation.


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 Post subject: Re: Is there a compatible SATA PCB for 2060-800041-003? WD40
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cheadledatarecovery wrote:
I can confirm that the donor Pebble Beach PCB is using the following:

DRAM size (allocated)................... : 65536 (55664) kB

Due to the fault on the SpyGlass 4TB Usb PCB it has not been possible to access the SA fully to confirm the DRAM allocation.

:shock:
Why can't you just read the part number off the chip and ask Mr Google?

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