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 Post subject: Remove hdd password from my Seagate hdd
PostPosted: April 29th, 2018, 12:34 
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Hi guys. My laptop has this hdd:
---2.5" mechanical IDE
---Seagate Momentus 4200.2
---model st950814a

Recently I changed the Hdd password from BIOS but I can't remember it. I followed some guides found on internet so I tryed to unlock the hdd using 2 softwares from hiren boot cd. The procedure asked me the Hdd master password, I typed "Seagate"+ 25 spaces but it results as a wrong password.

What can I do to unlock the disk? (firmware update, hdparm, other programs ecc...)
I could use FF repair station software but in my case I need an Ide to Sata adapter to connect this hdd to my desktop PC. Will the software work correctly?

Thanks in advance, Michele


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 Post subject: Re: Remove hdd password from my Seagate hdd
PostPosted: April 29th, 2018, 13:01 
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First, try to remember the password. If you remember it should be something, maybe try it in all caps or no-caps. It is possible that when entering the password in bios you inadvertently left the keyboard capslock activated.

If not remembering, then take it to a professional . At this stage with only the password it should be cheap.


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 Post subject: Re: Remove hdd password from my Seagate hdd
PostPosted: April 29th, 2018, 13:09 
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Hi there !!! Do you need the DATA on the drive ? If so DO NOT use the MASTER PASSWORD trick as most likely all sollutions based on that will issue/start a security erase and ALL DATA WILL BE ERASED.

FF Repair Station was fully discontinued on 1 June 2017. You can no longer use that.

You have several options.

1 - Try ZU and see if it works out for you. - http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=95&t=166 . ZU can unlock several ST-10 drives by sendning a VSC by ATA that will READ the password and then ZU uses that password to unlock the drive using the standard ATA commands to unlock and remove the password / unlock the drive.

2 - If ZU doesn't work most likely the VSC that ZU uses by ATA is not supported by your drive and you need to move to TTL.

Buy something like this - http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=192

Plug it to the drive like this - http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=193

- Follow the instructions here - http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=25

- Sometimes this script might work as well - http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=874#p3596

- The other methods on the F3 arch thread like reading sysfile will NOT WORK as your drive is a ST-10 one. On that thread the only info that you can use on your drive to unlock ATA password is the ZOC script.

3 - Use the seervice of a reputable data recovery firm (and not a regular computer repair shop) or consult with someone in Italy that has tools like PC-3000, MRT, SeDiv, etc to unlock your drive.

4 - If you already have the TTL adaptor and it's working but you don't want to use the manual method get a free DEMO of SeDiv - http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=2264 or http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=31#p2075 and read the VENDOR TRACK / SECTORS. ATA Password is stored on VENDOR. Then you can unlock the drive by using that password or by creating a file to use with Victoria - http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=117&t=1072

5 - Last but not the least if you do need HELP to get the password removed without erasing your data you can use MY OWN unlocking service here - http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=95&t=76

I CAN UNLOCK YOUR DRIVE IF :

1 - You are willing to ship to Portugal and pay a small fee + shipping costs and/or :

2 - You do have a TTL adaptor up and running and your drive is responding to terminal i can assist remotly by TeamViewer without the need of shipping the drive.

For more details PM me.


Regards and have a nice day.

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 Post subject: Re: Remove hdd password from my Seagate hdd
PostPosted: April 29th, 2018, 13:12 
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Oh ... and firmware updates will NOT remove the password out of your drive (unless you are very lucky and your update happen to have a new vendor track and it does work on locked drives but this is almost impossible to happen) .... Forget about that ...

Other software will NOT unlock the drive unless you know the password.

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 Post subject: Re: Remove hdd password from my Seagate hdd
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Oh ... and you do have another alternative.

You are based in Italy so you can contact @michael chiklis as he does have SeDiv + MRT so he can unlock your drive hopefully at a very reasonable price !

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 Post subject: Re: Remove hdd password from my Seagate hdd
PostPosted: April 30th, 2018, 7:10 
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Here is an old thread explaining how to do it before newer tools were developed.
https://forum.hddguru.com/viewtopic.php ... r+Password
Its like going back in time. :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Remove hdd password from my Seagate hdd
PostPosted: April 30th, 2018, 10:56 
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rogfanther wrote:
First, try to remember the password. If you remember it should be something, maybe try it in all caps or no-caps. It is possible that when entering the password in bios you inadvertently left the keyboard capslock activated.

If not remembering, then take it to a professional . At this stage with only the password it should be cheap.

Thanks togfanther. When I could use the previous password, I noticed that the Hdd password is not case sensitive. I don't know maybe t's just the firmware for this model that works this way

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 Post subject: Re: Remove hdd password from my Seagate hdd
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dick wrote:
Here is an old thread explaining how to do it before newer tools were developed.
https://forum.hddguru.com/viewtopic.php ... r+Password
Its like going back in time. :roll:

Thanks forum the link! The Hdd in that thread is the 100gb version, mine is 50 but I think that It shouldn't be a problem

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 Post subject: Re: Remove hdd password from my Seagate hdd
PostPosted: April 30th, 2018, 11:05 
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Spildit wrote:
Oh ...

Regards.

Hi Spildit! Many many thanks for all your advices!
I will buy a ttl adapter anyway because I like learn new things ;) but think the first things I'll do would be connecting the Hdd to my PC using an Ide adapter and then use zu. But it's not cear to me if zu allows me to preserve my files or not... Actually there's not so much important on this Hdd but I will prefer to getto back these files

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 Post subject: Re: Remove hdd password from my Seagate hdd
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Mich-C wrote:
(...)When I could use the previous password, I noticed that the Hdd password is not case sensitive. I don't know maybe t's just the firmware for this model that works this way


The password IS case sensitive.

Most likely your computer is not setting the same ATA password on the drive that you are typing ! In other words the computer might accept your password and lock your drive with another one like a hash of the password or some sort of encoded password or can even use it's own password and just unlock the drive with it's own password when you input the correct password to the bios.

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 Post subject: Re: Remove hdd password from my Seagate hdd
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Mich-C wrote:
Spildit wrote:
Oh ...

Regards.

Hi Spildit! Many many thanks for all your advices!
I will buy a ttl adapter anyway because I like learn new things ;) but think the first things I'll do would be connecting the Hdd to my PC using an Ide adapter and then use zu. But it's not cear to me if zu allows me to preserve my files or not... Actually there's not so much important on this Hdd but I will prefer to getto back these files


The way ZU works on ST-10 drives is simple, it will issue an ATA vendor specific command that will try to retrieve the user password from the drive and if it can do so it will use that password to unlock the drive using the standard ATA commands to do so. If ZU does unlock your drive there will be no data loss. ZU unlock the drive with the same password that it was set on it so it would be like having the correct password.

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 Post subject: Re: Remove hdd password from my Seagate hdd
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Spildit wrote:
The way ZU works on ST-10 drives is simple, it will issue an ATA vendor specific command that will try to retrieve the user password from the drive and if it can do so it will use that password to unlock the drive using the standard ATA commands to do so. If ZU does unlock your drive there will be no data loss. ZU unlock the drive with the same password that it was set on it so it would be like having the correct password.


I just launched ZU from freedos. Using both the /s and /p paeameters I have 2 alternatiting screens, one full of "6C" abd the other full of "l" emoticon smiles.
I can't even see the timer or any "unlocking" text...

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 Post subject: Re: Remove hdd password from my Seagate hdd
PostPosted: May 12th, 2018, 13:20 
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You must be doing something wrong or using some DOS boot disk that is not compatible with ZU, etc ...

Try the other mentioned methods like TTL adaptor or run ZU from Hiren's boot CD DOS boot disks or from win98 DOS, etc ...

Make sure you do have the latest version of ZU from here - http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=95&t=166

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 Post subject: Re: Remove hdd password from my Seagate hdd
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I would be able to brute force the password for you unless you used 256bit encryption for it, which I highly doubt :D , but I would ofc need the physical device.

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 Post subject: Re: Remove hdd password from my Seagate hdd
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I would be able to brute force the password for you unless you used 256bit encryption for it, which I highly doubt :D , but I would ofc need the physical device.


It's ... and ATA password. Wanna brute force that ? For what ?

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 Post subject: Re: Remove hdd password from my Seagate hdd
PostPosted: May 25th, 2018, 9:57 
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Finally started zu. I think that the first time I tryed I downloaded the old version.
with "zu/p" I immediately have this (no timer/loading)
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3.06 st950814A
UNLOCK NOT DONE


with "zu/s" I just have the blinking underscore and I must reboot (I think it's normal on a laptop with just 1 hdd slot :lol: )

Zu actually support this hdd because I don't have "NOT SUPPORTED" like other users...

What could be the problem and how can I solve it?

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 Post subject: Re: Remove hdd password from my Seagate hdd
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Tryed again with the /a parameter. Now it's scanning and I see the timer.
I started the process 1 hour ago and zu is still working on this 50 gb hdd. Is it normal?

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 Post subject: Re: Remove hdd password from my Seagate hdd
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Mich-C wrote:
Tryed again with the /a parameter. Now it's scanning and I see the timer.
I started the process 1 hour ago and zu is still working on this 50 gb hdd. Is it normal?


ZU on ST-10 drives works like this.

- Issue SUPER ON (ATA).
- Issue a VENDOR SPECIFIC COMMAND (ATA) that makes the drive send to the buffer a sector of data with some info including the USER PASSWORD.
- Grabs the password and sends the ATA standard command to UNLOCK and then to REMOVE the PASSWORD.

Process should take some seconds only....

NOW .... different drives have different ATA VSC so if ZU doesn't know the correct VSCs for your drive .... IT WILL NOT WORK.

Conclusion is .... ZU doesn't work on your specific drive.

Use TTL methods instead.

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