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 Post subject: Re: Unable to unlock WD10JPLX
PostPosted: May 5th, 2018, 12:17 
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If this is a Hitachi ARM drive and you want to erase it , you can use the FormatUnit command to do the task . It will not ask for password and at the end the drive will be unlocked.


WOW !!! AGREE !

It will work like what SeDiv call "TYPE 1".

You have to issue the Security Erase Prepare command and then the FORMAT UNIT command and if all goes well drive should be unlocked at the end.

ALL DATA WILL BE GONE ....

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 Post subject: Re: Unable to unlock WD10JPLX
PostPosted: May 5th, 2018, 13:20 
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I think it's worth to try :

SECURITY Erase Prepare=00 00 00 00 00 A0 F3 00 00

IBM - Format Unit=11 00 00 00 00 A0 F7 00 00

:D :D :D

Then wait for the drive to leave the BSY state and report DRDY and DSC.

With "luck" the drive will be unlocked.

ALL DATA WILL BE GONE.

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 Post subject: Re: Unable to unlock WD10JPLX
PostPosted: May 6th, 2018, 12:45 
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This sounds promising, should these commands be issued with Victoria?

I'm still not clear on how Victoria is supposed to be run. Is it only for XP? Can it be run from a live CD like Hiren's?

I'm hesitant to use hdparm or Linux for this after it was what caused this problem.


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 Post subject: Re: Unable to unlock WD10JPLX
PostPosted: May 6th, 2018, 12:55 
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ElementalBlack wrote:
This sounds promising, should these commands be issued with Victoria?

I'm still not clear on how Victoria is supposed to be run. Is it only for XP? Can it be run from a live CD like Hiren's?

I'm hesitant to use hdparm or Linux for this after it was what caused this problem.


You will need some sort of ATA terminal to issue those commands :

http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1765

I would recommend HRT DEMO : - http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2297

You can use those with portable XP 32 bit in Hiren's Boot CD, etc ... This works just fone with XP as long as you have 32 bit versions that don't require for drivers to be signed for proper instalation.

Issue the secure erase prepare and then the format unit. Wait untill the BSY register turns off (this will take a while like hours) then you should be ok.

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 Post subject: Re: Unable to unlock WD10JPLX
PostPosted: May 6th, 2018, 19:06 
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If you need to run from a boot cd, HRT DEMO will not run from Hirens Boot CD. The option to run in compatibility mode does not exist. I would suggest WDMarvel demo, as it will run from hirens boot cd and will detect drives in AHCI mode (bios does not need to be in IDE mode). You just need to have it extracted on a USB flash drive and plug it in after booting to mini XP, and then run the executable. For what needs to be done, it would be the easiest to run without an actual XP installation.

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 Post subject: Re: Unable to unlock WD10JPLX
PostPosted: May 6th, 2018, 19:55 
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maximus wrote:
If you need to run from a boot cd, HRT DEMO will not run from Hirens Boot CD. The option to run in compatibility mode does not exist. I would suggest WDMarvel demo, as it will run from hirens boot cd and will detect drives in AHCI mode (bios does not need to be in IDE mode). You just need to have it extracted on a USB flash drive and plug it in after booting to mini XP, and then run the executable. For what needs to be done, it would be the easiest to run without an actual XP installation.


If you are going to run the OS from a live CD you can use mini win 98 and then HRT_Demo will work.

Of course you should be ok with WDMarvel as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Unable to unlock WD10JPLX
PostPosted: May 6th, 2018, 19:56 
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As alternative :

http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php? ... =20#p13374

http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php? ... =40#p14529

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 Post subject: Re: Unable to unlock WD10JPLX
PostPosted: May 6th, 2018, 22:30 
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I attempted to run the prepare, but kept getting "The drive is not ready".

Here are the steps I took:
1. Find the drive
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2. Reset the drive with "Soft Reset" to clear any expired password attempts
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3. Attempt to send the security erase prepare command
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It seems strange to me that the prepare failed.


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 Post subject: Re: Unable to unlock WD10JPLX
PostPosted: May 7th, 2018, 13:58 
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Try to send the FormatUnit ?

Maybe WDMarvel is not the best choice ...

Drive shouldn't report DRQ, COR, INX ...

Strange ...

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 Post subject: Re: Unable to unlock WD10JPLX
PostPosted: May 7th, 2018, 15:02 
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Ok, i've done some testing with ARM based HGST.

- If you LOCK the drive and power off/on the drive will be LOCKED. It's not like when you SET the password that you have a drive with ATA password but "unlocked".

If you issue the ERASE PREPARE even on the LOCKED drive it should .... WORK :

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BUT .....

Try to send the FORMAT UNIT and ....

:cry: :cry: :cry:

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If you know the ATA password you can UNLOCK the drive (DON'T REMOVE THE PWD) and then the command .... WILL WORK !

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Forget about FORMAT UNIT as well ...

Yes, you DO SET A PWD on ARM to do the "Format Unit" but you do KNOW the PWD and the drive is "unlocked" when you issue the format unit as you are not supposed to power off/on locking the drive !

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 Post subject: Re: Unable to unlock WD10JPLX
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It sounds like I need to know the password to even unlock the drive. If I got the password right I could just security erase the drive I believe, but this issue is about not knowing the password.

I've spent hours just trying to figure out how I could run HRT, but it seems to costs money if I want to use anything newer than XP.

On top of that I don't know how to issue the unlock command with a password from Windows. Maybe HRT can do it, but I haven't even been able to try that software yet.

It seems like all these tools require Win98 and WinXP, which is growing harder to install on modern machines. I've spent many hours trying to solve this and it keeps coming back to needing to know the password.


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 Post subject: Re: Unable to unlock WD10JPLX
PostPosted: May 7th, 2018, 18:06 
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ElementalBlack wrote:
It sounds like I need to know the password to even unlock the drive. If I got the password right I could just security erase the drive I believe, but this issue is about not knowing the password.

I've spent hours just trying to figure out how I could run HRT, but it seems to costs money if I want to use anything newer than XP.

On top of that I don't know how to issue the unlock command with a password from Windows. Maybe HRT can do it, but I haven't even been able to try that software yet.

It seems like all these tools require Win98 and WinXP, which is growing harder to install on modern machines. I've spent many hours trying to solve this and it keeps coming back to needing to know the password.


Yes ... And to bypass the password without knowing it you would need expensive tools like PC-3000 or to know the Vendor Specific Commands for your ARM drive and we don't know that. We don't even know if cheaper tools like $350 USD SeDiv for Hitachi will work with your drive (probably NOT) so that leaves you with a $6000 USD PC-3000 sollution and that is NOT realistic to unlock just a single drive...

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