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 Post subject: The all-in-one tool question
PostPosted: May 17th, 2018, 5:44 
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Hi all

Before anything else, I'd like to mention that I have no experience in data recovery other than using ddrescue a couple of times, so bear with me.

I have a strong IT background, and I'm thinking ahead in a couple of years to set up a small data recovery business. One of the questions that first arises is the tools needed for the job. If we don't take into account physical damage to moving parts or electronic components in a hard disk, will PC-3000 be able to recover most of the data of a hard disk in most of the scenarios presented? (firmware corruption, bad sectors, logical failures, etc)

In other words: will investing in PC-3000 resolve most of the cases non related to physical damage of the hard disk?

Thank you in advance.


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 Post subject: Re: The all-in-one tool question
PostPosted: May 17th, 2018, 9:05 
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Yes, it will


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 Post subject: Re: The all-in-one tool question
PostPosted: May 17th, 2018, 10:54 
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rogfanther wrote:
Yes, it will

I don't think so. PC3000 is just a tool. It can help you much, but it's up to you to solve the cases.


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 Post subject: Re: The all-in-one tool question
PostPosted: May 17th, 2018, 13:40 
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It's a tool and it's a great hell of a tool if used correctly. By all means, it's worth investing money into if you are planning to service hard drives.

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 Post subject: Re: The all-in-one tool question
PostPosted: May 17th, 2018, 17:01 
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Cheo wrote:
will investing in PC-3000 resolve most of the cases non related to physical damage of the hard disk?

Yes, you connect the disk, press the "repair" key and wait 5 minutes and you can bill the service.....

Now seriously, the answer is NO.

Tools are necessary, but not enough.


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 Post subject: Re: The all-in-one tool question
PostPosted: May 17th, 2018, 18:39 
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It will help allot with easy data extraction like cloning/imaging drives with bad sectors with minimal knowlegde required.

For more advanced firmware problems knowledge and how-to-do-it is required as well.

PC-3000 have very good manuals and good tech support as well.

And you can learn by practicing with your own drives.

It will require a huge amount of time.

If what you want to do is simple clone/image drives with bad sectors but without firmware problems (except very typical ones) you might consider something cheaper like RapidSpar or DDI4. If you want to access the firmware in orther to fix it then go for PC-3000.

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 Post subject: Re: The all-in-one tool question
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On a small IT shop offering some sort of data recovery you might consider to start with logic recovery only and for that DDI4/RapidSpar will be enought with something like R-Studio, GetDataBack, etc ....

If you plan to go deeper (and this will require way more know-how) you can consider PC-3000.

If you don't want to spend a huge amount of money in PC-3000 to later figure out that firmware repair is not for you you might want to consider cheap tools like SeDiv or even online MRT just to have a "feel" of what working with HDD firmware looks like ... If you decide that it's not for you then at least you didn't spend a fortune on a PC-3000 that by license agreement can't be re-sold neither transfered to other person....

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 Post subject: Re: The all-in-one tool question
PostPosted: May 18th, 2018, 12:54 
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Hi Splidit

Thanks a lot for your reply. Is there any big differences between DDI4 and RapidSpar other than easy of use? Besides, I've been looking at DDI4 website and the last news posted was on January 12, 2016. I don't know if they still releasing updates on new drives.


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 Post subject: Re: The all-in-one tool question
PostPosted: May 18th, 2018, 14:15 
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Hi !

RapidSpar can do minor firmware fixes but DDI4 despite the fact that can't do that it's way more powerfull and configurable in th easpect on imaging/cloning.

Read here : http://www.hddoracle.com/viewforum.php?f=180

DDI4 doesn't need updates for new drives like PC-3000 needs as DDI4 will work mainly using standard ATA commands instead of vendor specific so it doesn't need to be updated to know how to work with newer drives.

You need a huge amount of updates when a new drive enters the market if the way the firmware works is diferent from all the older models so for example PC-3000, MRT, etc will have to be "updated" to know how to access the firmware of the new drive and to fix the known faults, etc ...

DDI4 will clone/image that new drive the same way it would clone an older drive based on ATA standards so there is no need to update to support the new drive just to fix bugs or improve the functionality of the device if they decide to add more functionality or do things in a better way.

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 Post subject: Re: The all-in-one tool question
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As said earlier, you need both tools and good head on your shoulders to go in for data recovery. :)
If you are sure that this is exactly what you want to do, pc3000 may become your go to tool.


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