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PostPosted: January 13th, 2005, 12:59 
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Some of you seen this topic before.

Today, i've got this N40P @ 40 GB, detected as Maxtor N40P of course.
I've found P-LIST, G_LIST, DISK, SMART ATT & SMART S LOG MODULES BAD.
I've tried to replace those with copies of them, but no succes at writing the modules,i think. After this i tried to write in SAFE MODE, but no change. The copies were perfectly good, no bad sectors found in that zone. Final step : i've writen the whole SMB, and got the my n40 detected as :

Maxtor 6E040L1 8804/8/1140
SN:E1AZKM0E FW:NCR31V30 LBAs:80293248
Support: DLMCode LBA 48bit HPA AAM DMA (UDMA6,MWDMA2)
SMART: Disabled SelfTest: enabled ErrLog: enabled
Size = 39205MB
Init drive: Done


I've have the original modules, but when i wrote them back, same problem, some one has any ideea why this happend ??? :shock:

Posted 13/1/2005, 20:34:

PS:

I've forgot to mention it wont read anything from user area.

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b_wonderer_a wrote:
I've tried to replace those with copies of them, but no succes at writing the modules,i think.


take a good working N40P and record modules.

change serial number and record modules.

Compare all the modules for variations and where
these occur.

Maybe this will help to answer your question.

Once you have made some conclusions you probably won't
do what you have been doing to your N40P drives.


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I do not understand; really.
When we change the serial number of a hard disk , the modules change ? all them ? some ? not only the ID ?


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cenahum wrote:
I do not understand; really.
When we change the serial number of a hard disk , the modules change ? all them ? some ? not only the ID ?


try it :)


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fujimax wrote:
cenahum wrote:
I do not understand; really.
When we change the serial number of a hard disk , the modules change ? all them ? some ? not only the ID ?


try it :)


Can you be more specific? I don't quite understand what you mean.

Pleeeease.


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Ok, lets gona talk about changing the serial number of hard diks, in this case MAXTOR, the module that is responsable for the serial number is the ID module and you can change the serial number of the hard disk recording a new id or using the Maxtor Utility in PC3000, and in both case nothing will change in others modules, this is no true. You can not change - for an example - the P-List of a hard disk because you will change the serial number of it, please do say that. This coment is a bad joke.


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Hi cenahum,

I hope I understand you correctly :

what is a bad joke ??

b_wanderer_a wrote a new DISK ID module obviously with a new serial number.

You know the serial number is found in a few places.

Do you think when you write a new DISK ID mod you will update the serial number in all
places ??

I think if you use a good utility to CHANGE the serial number you will update it in all
the right places.

hope this clears it up

You can in some cases write a new DISK module if you understand the above and
the full function of the Disk ID module.


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I think that this is a good discussion, and we can learn something here.
I would like to understand how we can change the P-List of a hard disk changing only the ID module. This is my question.
Everything that I learn untill now say that P-List is the Phiiscal defect list of the Hard disk, and you are saying that is possible to change the number of the defect list just changing the ID module, is this ?
When you change more them one module I really know that many things will change.
I will improove my research to look for what you want to say when you write - "I think if you use a good utility to CHANGE the serial number you will update it in all the right places. "
I will keep you post, about this matter. In my point of view of course.
Anyway I really think that the best thing to do here is to be a little bit more clear, do you think ?
I understand what you are saying but many others has no ideia.


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Hi cenahum,

I am not talking about the P-List or changing it with the ID module.


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Hi fujimax,
Ok, I understand. But I would like to understand this advice:

"take a good working N40P and record modules.

change serial number and record modules.

Compare all the modules for variations and where
these occur.

Maybe this will help to answer your question.

Once you have made some conclusions you probably won't
do what you have been doing to your N40P drives"

I'm not saying that this work or that this do not work, I just would like to understand what does it means.
Maybe my problem is with the advice to change the serial, maybe not.
But we can even talk about the ID and where is the serial number, if you are using the PC3000 we only can find the serial number in the ID module.
Also you will find the serial number ( of course that we know that the numbers in HEX has a special way, don't you ? ) in 3 groups of modules and they are:
DATA, copy 1 / DATA, copy 2 and in SELFSCAN.
So maybe you can help me to understand your advice.


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