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May 21st, 2019, 11:25
HaQue wrote:search the forum for this. I am thinking I saw something like this and the 2 hard disks were configured in some kind of RAID to the system. maybe search the HDD model numbers, ZIF and Toshiba. IIRC the O.G. poster was looking for an adapter, or pinout, or trying to do what you are doing and replacing the HDD's.
labtech wrote:That drive model is definitely a ZIF, not a LIF.
labtech wrote:Curious to learn what adapters and SSDs you are using for replacement.
Have any links, please?
May 21st, 2019, 17:46
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May 23rd, 2019, 18:12
fzabkar wrote:Can you show us hi-res photos of your adapters? I'd like to examine their pinouts.
fzabkar wrote:Google suggests that these Toshiba models were used in Sony SR12E, SR11E and HD620 cameras.
The interface pinout should be in the "SONY HDR-SR11 SR11E SR12 SR12E LEVEL-3 VER-1.2 SM" service manual:
https://elektrotanya.com/?q=showresult&what=SR11E+Sony&kategoria=All&kat2=All
May 23rd, 2019, 18:15
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May 23rd, 2019, 19:23
Snowman wrote: ... the 40 pin flat cable, which was attached tightly to the HDD, seems to be too thin for the 40-pin port in the adapter and therefor was not attached proper. I tried to thicken it with electrical tape, and it then was tight, but still no recognition.
May 24th, 2019, 17:01
fzabkar wrote:Snowman wrote: ... the 40 pin flat cable, which was attached tightly to the HDD, seems to be too thin for the 40-pin port in the adapter and therefor was not attached proper. I tried to thicken it with electrical tape, and it then was tight, but still no recognition.
Sorry if I'm stating the obvious, but did you lock the cable with the locking tab?
May 24th, 2019, 19:27
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May 25th, 2019, 11:21
fzabkar wrote:Level 3 of the manual refers back to page 4-40 of the Level 2 manual:
https://elektrotanya.com/sony_hdr-sr11_sr12_level2_ver1.2.pdf/download.html
fzabkar wrote:Sorry if I'm stating the obvious, but did you lock the cable with the locking tab?
johnkeates wrote:I have recovered some data off of this type of drive connection; the problem you're facing is the non-standard ZIF FFC thickness (or thinness?).
The interface is relatively standard (also used in a number of older HP tablet notebooks, the ones with the rotating screens), but the connectors and cables are not easy to get to work reliably. What I ended up doing is getting a FFC that is slightly too thin, and then using 0.1mm (or was it 0.025mm? was years ago...) kapton tape to add layers until it's the same snugness as the normal cable.
The connectors are not located using standard pitch-to-ffc-edge distance because they used to be multi-use cables (both no-lock ZIF and back-lock ZIF), if you use a softer tape like PVC tape it won't locate properly and either short or shift to the space between the pins. The pin pitch on 1.8" ZIF HDDs from that era usually doesn't reliably match with a back-lock ZIF connector you get on ZIF-to-mSATA carrier boards, because those are usually for the thicker ZIF connectors.
johnkeates wrote:The cable between the host device and the disk itself is often custom in the device end, so that's not always possible. In those cases, you can use an extension board (yep, those exist for some reason), they come with a small board which has four or two types of connectors, a standard lockable (back flip or front flip lock available) and a ZIF-no-lock one, and you get a standard cable. this then allows you to chain them together (unless you want to make a custom PCB).
fzabkar wrote:If the adapter uses JMicron's JM20330A bridge IC (limited to 1.5Gbps), then it may have problems negotiating a SATA link with some 3Gbps or 6Gbps SSDs.
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