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 Post subject: Re: sudden death ?
PostPosted: January 23rd, 2021, 3:47 
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I'm curious too as to how it will turn out - last time I looked in the drive wasn't being recognised in the bios.

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I am not sure if the OP would benefit much from the pro version, without any experience.
I imagine using the virtual driver could assist greatly retrying the recovery of missing sectors using DMDE or rstudio set against the clone and drive, little point in thrashing about with empty sectors.

Speaking of which, slightly OT but have you seen Sin's thread in R&D on reading .map files from DE and parsing into DDI ?

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PostPosted: January 23rd, 2021, 10:13 
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I imagine using the virtual driver could assist greatly retrying the recovery of missing sectors using DMDE or rstudio set against the clone and drive, little point in thrashing about with empty sectors.
Agree, the OP did say somewhere in this thread they wanted to learn. Right now I think they may learn the hard way that it is important to target needed data during cloning because the drive will only get worse and possibly die.

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Speaking of which, slightly OT but have you seen Sin's thread in R&D on reading .map files from DE and parsing into DDI ?
Yes, that is very interesting.

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 Post subject: Re: sudden death ?
PostPosted: January 23rd, 2021, 10:56 
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maximus wrote:
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I imagine using the virtual driver could assist greatly retrying the recovery of missing sectors using DMDE or rstudio set against the clone and drive, little point in thrashing about with empty sectors.
Agree, the OP did say somewhere in this thread they wanted to learn. Right now I think they may learn the hard way that it is important to target needed data during cloning because the drive will only get worse and possibly die.

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Speaking of which, slightly OT but have you seen Sin's thread in R&D on reading .map files from DE and parsing into DDI ?
Yes, that is very interesting.

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I'm curious too as to how it will turn out - last time I looked in the drive wasn't being recognised in the bios.

maximus wrote:
I am not sure if the OP would benefit much from the pro version, without any experience.
I imagine using the virtual driver could assist greatly retrying the recovery of missing sectors using DMDE or rstudio set against the clone and drive, little point in thrashing about with empty sectors.

Speaking of which, slightly OT but have you seen Sin's thread in R&D on reading .map files from DE and parsing into DDI ?





so here are the news, like you said it did reach a point where the drive scan reach a really low reading speed (30-100kb per sec).
but i did let it ran untill the end, it did reach PHASE 4 did the trimming and finished successfully .

https://imgur.com/RZ46sf0

https://imgur.com/5prPgei

Rstudio and DMDE do show an NTFS partition which is nice to see , BUT some files from this partition unfortunately the files that are important are the one who are damaged (Murphy's law . . . really unlucky :) )

https://imgur.com/y7Dkybn

alot of picture/pdf files are not complete .


the question now is, what is the next step after i cloned the drive, how/ what can be done to fix those damaged files .


thank you! for you'r encouragement and help .


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 Post subject: Re: sudden death ?
PostPosted: January 23rd, 2021, 11:27 
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I see that it shows as a 100% recovery, which I did not expect. Also, since you say there are damaged files, obviously it is not 100%. Were you using a USB adapter to clone the drive? If so, I think that it did not properly identify the errors. I suspect this because the log showed it was in SCSI passthrough mode, and I don't see the model and serial number in any screenshot. You may have got a false recovery if you did not have the drive directly connected to the computer. THAT would be learning the hard way.

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 Post subject: Re: sudden death ?
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maximus wrote:
I see that it shows as a 100% recovery, which I did not expect. Also, since you say there are damaged files, obviously it is not 100%. Were you using a USB adapter to clone the drive? If so, I think that it did not properly identify the errors. I suspect this because the log showed it was in SCSI passthrough mode, and I don't see the model and serial number in any screenshot. You may have got a false recovery if you did not have the drive directly connected to the computer. THAT would be learning the hard way.


hehe :( :)
no one guided /warn/advise me on how to operate the software so yea , like u said the hard way :(


and yes, it was connected through a usb adapter (via a laptop)

https://imgur.com/cnt5efW

at my stage what is the next step how / what can be done to fix those damaged files .


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 Post subject: Re: sudden death ?
PostPosted: January 23rd, 2021, 13:28 
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Asking how to fix the files is like asking how to fix your car when it is missing the engine. That drive recovery is probably only 80% successfully cloned at best. And most of the unread data is in the second partition. So you are probably missing 200GB from the second partition. You can’t fix data that you did not read from the disk.

The best solution would be to attempt a targeted recovery. That would mean purchasing HDDSuperClone and DMDE, and using them together to target the desired files. There is a link to videos on how to do that on the HDDSuperClone website.

If you still want to do things the hard way (and wrong way but free), you did at least one good thing that could help you. You enabled the phase logs, so you should have the last log of phase 2 before it started phase 3. You could make a copy of that log to work from, and resume the recovery from there in phase 3, but with the drive directly connected to the computer. Just to be clear there would still be some (hopefully small) chunks of missing data from the failed (but not reported bad) reads of phases 1-2, but that may be a small sacrifice you would have to pay if you go this direction. Doing this would at least target those huge unread black spots. But be prepared to find out how bad the condition of the drive really is.

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 Post subject: Re: sudden death ?
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The location and size of the damaged partition is shown in r-studio's partition properties. I think, I remember you can change the start position and reading length in the free version.

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 Post subject: Re: sudden death ?
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Yes, another option is to start over with a new progress log file, and the source directly connected to the computer (but keep using the same destination), and target the second partition with the input offset and size. Actually since it is the last partition, only the input offset should need to be changed, the size will adjust to the end of the drive.

I was only trying to minimize read attempts of already read data with my suggestion, since we don't know how long the drive will last, or how much data is melting off the surface with every pass. This whole recovery attempt has been kind of a mess from the start. And I was assuming it was directly connected from previous posts about getting it to show up in the bios, so I missed noticing it was probably connected via USB, which really messed things up, and also messed up my assessment of the condition.

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 Post subject: Re: sudden death ?
PostPosted: January 27th, 2021, 18:07 
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maximus wrote:
Yes, another option is to start over with a new progress log file, and the source directly connected to the computer (but keep using the same destination), and target the second partition with the input offset and size. Actually since it is the last partition, only the input offset should need to be changed, the size will adjust to the end of the drive.

I was only trying to minimize read attempts of already read data with my suggestion, since we don't know how long the drive will last, or how much data is melting off the surface with every pass. This whole recovery attempt has been kind of a mess from the start. And I was assuming it was directly connected from previous posts about getting it to show up in the bios, so I missed noticing it was probably connected via USB, which really messed things up, and also messed up my assessment of the condition.



well i must say it kind did a good job just for a "usb" connection ^,^
hopefully he wont die in the middle of the recovery .

anyhow , i've pluged it directly to the motherboard (laptop) now, and tried to follow ur direction , i selected the first PHASE3 log that i saw in the folder and selected a different DD file (a new one that way i make sure it wont destroy the one that i have already) AND selected direct ACHI however it didn't allow me to proceed with direct ACHI with this warning
"WARNING: This drive is also available to the OS!
That is too dangerous, and would likely result in a computer crash!
Please make sure to follow the instructions on how to hide the drive!
" https://imgur.com/2UuyBXy then "error to selecting source"



also is that possible to re-read only skiped sectors ?


update 1
im following this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uLcBjV9gco

update 2

actually its not possible to "hide" drive on live cd right ?
"Error: No backup file
/boot/grub/grub_hddsc_original_bakup.cfg"
since it needs a reboot and when a reboot happen everything comes back to 0 like nothing happen xD
hmmm



what should i do now rescan everything to a new file ? or to the exiting 1tb file image ? im abit confused ^,^
what are the steps i should use


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 Post subject: Re: sudden death ?
PostPosted: January 27th, 2021, 19:09 
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Watch the video farther, it shows how to hide the drive using the live CD.

If you keep using HDDSuperClone, and get it working with the direct mode, you should probably keep using the same output image file. If you do everything correct, it will only write good data, and not overwrite anything already read with bad data. Also, I said to start with the very last phase 2 log, not the next phase 3 log.

Honestly, you may be best to start over. You can use a new output image file if you wish, but understand that if the drive dies it will be near impossible to merge the original and new image files correctly. Using multiple image output files can get very messy if the drive dies. As long as you don't use that USB adapter again, and have the drive directly connected to the computer, then hddsuperclone should not overwrite any good data already written. I suggest using the same image file. If you are concerned about messing up the current image file, then make a backup copy of it, assuming you have the space.

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 Post subject: Re: sudden death ?
PostPosted: January 27th, 2021, 20:17 
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couple of things ,

1,
disabled the 4th ata in my case
it does not seems to work with hdd direct connection .
https://imgur.com/WY7ThcL
https://imgur.com/svTXfTy

when it is pluged right a way to the pc it seems to be busy all the time .

even if i tried to do a soft & hard reset via HDDSuperTool

https://imgur.com/89BmMpk

2,
i thought using mdme to select specific files and folders to put less stress on the whole disk again , do u think i should do that or clone again from the end of phase2 to the end ?

3, since it write only data and does not overwrite stuff or change stuff , that mean it always appending , so saving it to a new image file and appending the new file to the old file would be the same no ?


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