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 Post subject: Toshiba P300 - HDWD110 - very slow data reading
PostPosted: October 12th, 2023, 11:45 
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Hi i have Toshiba P300 - HDWD110
I need to create a binary copy, jednak odczyt danych z dysku jest na poziomie 133kb/s
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smartctl --all
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smartctl 7.3 2022-02-28 r5338 [x86_64-linux-6.1.42-antix.1-amd64-smp] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-22, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Toshiba P300 (CMR)
Device Model:     TOSHIBA HDWD110
Serial Number:    xxxxxxxxxxx
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000039 fd9c11ff1
Firmware Version: MS2OA8R0
User Capacity:    1,000,204,886,016 bytes [1.00 TB]
Sector Sizes:     512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate:    7200 rpm
Form Factor:      3.5 inches
Device is:        In smartctl database 7.3/5319
ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
SATA Version is:  SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:    Thu Jan  3 19:05:18 1980 EST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: FAILED!
Drive failure expected in less than 24 hours. SAVE ALL DATA.
See vendor-specific Attribute list for failed Attributes.

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x84)   Offline data collection activity
               was suspended by an interrupting command from host.
               Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0)   The previous self-test routine completed
               without error or no self-test has ever
               been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:       ( 7022) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:           (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
               Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
               Suspend Offline collection upon new
               command.
               Offline surface scan supported.
               Self-test supported.
               No Conveyance Self-test supported.
               Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)   Saves SMART data before entering
               power-saving mode.
               Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01)   Error logging supported.
               General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:     (   1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:     ( 117) minutes.
SCT capabilities:           (0x003d)   SCT Status supported.
               SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
               SCT Feature Control supported.
               SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000b   056   056   016    Pre-fail  Always       -       498410977
  2 Throughput_Performance  0x0005   142   142   054    Pre-fail  Offline      -       71
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0007   117   117   024    Pre-fail  Always       -       196 (Average 197)
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       615
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   001   001   005    Pre-fail  Always   FAILING_NOW 2005
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000b   100   100   067    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0005   118   118   020    Pre-fail  Offline      -       33
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1079
10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   060    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       613
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       618
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       618
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0002   214   214   000    Old_age   Always       -       28 (Min/Max 19/43)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   001   001   000    Old_age   Always       -       2767
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0022   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0008   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x000a   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
No self-tests have been logged.  [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.



zdaje sobie sprawe ze dysk jest w nie najlepszej kondycji, ale moze jednak mozna cos z tym zrobic ?
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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba P300 - HDWD110 - very slow data reading
PostPosted: October 12th, 2023, 17:00 
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Your drive has bad sectors!
Slow reading very likely is due to bad sector remap process (firmware function), that interferes with cloning process.
You should turn off remapping via terminal by using serial RS232 adaptor ("SP" command).

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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba P300 - HDWD110 - very slow data reading
PostPosted: October 13th, 2023, 4:08 
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ok but i have only two pins
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I think these are TX and RX pins
what about GND ?
I should use 1.8V or 3.3V ?
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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba P300 - HDWD110 - very slow data reading
PostPosted: October 13th, 2023, 5:54 
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Sorry, this is not a true Toshiba drive, it is Hitachi (ARM series) manufactured.
It doesn't have serial connection, the only way to solve the issue is to clean G-list with professional tools and hope that heads are not weak/dead.

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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba P300 - HDWD110 - very slow data reading
PostPosted: October 13th, 2023, 6:03 
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michael chiklis wrote:
It doesn't have serial connection, the only way to solve the issue is to clean G-list with professional tools

MRT can do this ?

michael chiklis wrote:
and hope that heads are not weak/dead.

heads swap help?
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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba P300 - HDWD110 - very slow data reading
PostPosted: October 13th, 2023, 6:23 
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MRT has the option to clear g-list of Hitachi ARM drives, but i don't know how effective it will be.
It depends on the drive, if it has weak heads it will be necessary to swap them.
Also, surface may be very degraded, reading speed in this case can be still slow after head swap.

How does your drive behave during cloning?
Does it read very slow on every zones or only on some?
Do you ear head clicking/scratching sounds while is reading slowly?
Have you tried to clone in reverse mode (from last to first LBA), and how does it behave ?

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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba P300 - HDWD110 - very slow data reading
PostPosted: October 13th, 2023, 10:47 
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michael chiklis wrote:
How does your drive behave during cloning?
Does it read very slow on every zones or only on some?
Do you ear head clicking/scratching sounds while is reading slowly?

I don't hear anything disturbing

michael chiklis wrote:
Have you tried to clone in reverse mode (from last to first LBA), and how does it behave ?
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backwaord imaging in ddrescue looks like this
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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba P300 - HDWD110 - very slow data reading
PostPosted: October 13th, 2023, 11:16 
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18gb and look like this

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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba P300 - HDWD110 - very slow data reading
PostPosted: October 13th, 2023, 13:30 
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It seem to be that your drive has still working heads, it has damaged surface in some zones.
I would continue to clone in reverse mode... i think using DDRescue is your best option without professional tools.
If possible, jump bad sectors (example 10000 LBAs jump on bads encountered) as fast as you can (use low read timings, example 200 ms) on 1st pass... on 2nd pass you may increase read timing and reduce jump.

P.S.
I don't know if this settings can be set on DDRescue, i don't use it.
As i know, HddSuperClone (which is a GNU linux utility based on DDRescue algorithm) can set this options, and can let you set also which sectors do not need to be cloned because do not contain any useful data (slax area)... but for this option you will need to use it combined with DMDE.
https://www.hddsuperclone.com/hddsuperclone

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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba P300 - HDWD110 - very slow data reading
PostPosted: November 6th, 2023, 6:37 
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michael chiklis wrote:
It seem to be that your drive has still working heads, it has damaged surface in some zones.
I would continue to clone in reverse mode... i think using DDRescue is your best option without professional tools.
If possible, jump bad sectors (example 10000 LBAs jump on bads encountered) as fast as you can (use low read timings, example 200 ms) on 1st pass... on 2nd pass you may increase read timing and reduce jump.

P.S.
I don't know if this settings can be set on DDRescue, i don't use it.
As i know, HddSuperClone (which is a GNU linux utility based on DDRescue algorithm) can set this options, and can let you set also which sectors do not need to be cloned because do not contain any useful data (slax area)... but for this option you will need to use it combined with DMDE.
https://www.hddsuperclone.com/hddsuperclone


ok im recive my MRT card and im run it witch this Toshiba
What is the way to handle this disk so that it can quickly read the data on it?
it is my first time witch this tools
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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba P300 - HDWD110 - very slow data reading
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I don't teach or do any tutorial on how to use mrt, but you can contact tech staff to help you.
I suggest to start first with fw backup of your drive.

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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba P300 - HDWD110 - very slow data reading
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ok im trying to clear G-List unfortunetly MRT Dont support 3.5' Hitachi ARM disk now
Is clearing the G-List the only solution?

A bit of google tells me Toshiba P300 these are relabeled Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000
in my storage i have 100% working Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.C 1TB
Is it a good idea to heads swap ??
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Pi0tR wrote:
ok im trying to clear G-List unfortunetly MRT Dont support 3.5' Hitachi ARM disk now
Is clearing the G-List the only solution?

A bit of google tells me Toshiba P300 these are relabeled Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000
in my storage i have 100% working Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.C 1TB
Is it a good idea to heads swap ??


What?
Hitachi ARM drives are already supported by MRT.
Just select 7210DLE6 family and tick "Teck-Key detection" option.

Before doing any changes, do first fw backup (SA+ROM+NVRAM), ask to mrt tech support if you are not sure of what are you going to do.
You might contact "William MRT technician" on skype.
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Pi0tR wrote:
A bit of google tells me Toshiba P300 these are relabeled Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000


Yes, we all know that... i already wrote this above
https://forum.hddguru.com/viewtopic.php ... 98#p306598

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PC3000 has an option to disable reallocation on ram, i think this is the proper way to solve the issue of your drive.
Unfortunately mrt doesn't have such option.

G-list clearing it might not help, it even can make things worse if heads can't write properly.

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michael chiklis wrote:
Pi0tR wrote:
ok im trying to clear G-List unfortunetly MRT Dont support 3.5' Hitachi ARM disk now
Is clearing the G-List the only solution?

A bit of google tells me Toshiba P300 these are relabeled Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000
in my storage i have 100% working Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.C 1TB
Is it a good idea to heads swap ??


What?
Hitachi ARM drives are already supported by MRT.
Just select 7210DLE6 family and tick "Teck-Key detection" option.

Before doing any changes, do first fw backup (SA+ROM+NVRAM), ask to mrt tech support if you are not sure of what are you going to do.
You might contact "William MRT technician" on skype.
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thanks!!

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Selected family:7210DLE6

Model:TOSHIBA HDWD110

Technology key : ....................................OK

Read module list : ..................................OK

Read open module list : .............................OK

get the head number : ...............................02

Backuping HDD resources

Reading ROM
Save path:C:\UserDataFile\Hitachi-ARM\7210DLE6\TOSHIBA HDWD110-MS2OA8R0-X8V2GPVFS - poprawny\Data\SABackup\ROM\
Save ROM : ..........................................Succeed

Backuping NV-RAM...
Save Path :C:\UserDataFile\Hitachi-ARM\7210DLE6\TOSHIBA HDWD110-MS2OA8R0-X8V2GPVFS - poprawny\Data\SABackup\NV-RAM\
NV_RAM.nvr : ........................................OK
Backup NV-RAM : .....................................Complete

Save path of module directory
Save the main module list : .........................Succeed
Save the open module list : .........................Succeed

Saving Module

Reading Method : ....................................Selected copy
Whether to ignore read errors : .....................No

Save Path :C:\UserDataFile\Hitachi-ARM\7210DLE6\TOSHIBA HDWD110-MS2OA8R0-X8V2GPVFS - poprawny\Data\SABackup\
Module RPSH Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module RPSH Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module USAG Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module USAG Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module RAMI Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module RAMI Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module RAM0 Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module RAM0 Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module PSHT Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module PSHT Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module RDMT Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module RDMT Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module RPOP Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module RPOP Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module SECI Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module SECI Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module SECB Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module SECB Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module ZONE Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module ZONE Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module SRVP Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module SRVP Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module SRVM Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module SRVM Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module CHNM Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module CHNM Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module IDNT Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module IDNT Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module SMRT Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module SMRT Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module SERL Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module SERL Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module IOPS Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module IOPS Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module SSLD Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module SSLD Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module SCTH Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module SCTH Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module FEAT Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module FEAT Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module CNFG Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module CNFG Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module WWNM Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module WWNM Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module RPSP Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module RPSP Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module SPTR Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module SPTR Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module ABLP Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module ABLP Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module DBGC Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module DBGC Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module ALSM Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module ALSM Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module ATIR Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module ATIR Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module AVZN Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module AVZN Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module CGDF Copy0 : .................................Succeed
Module CGDF Copy1 : .................................Succeed
Module RDM1 : .......................................Succeed
Module RDM2 : .......................................Succeed
Module ELG1 : .......................................Succeed
Module EVLG : .......................................Succeed
Module PID1 : .......................................Succeed
Module PID2 : .......................................Succeed
Module PIDM : .......................................Succeed
Module PDM1 : .......................................Succeed
Module PDM2 : .......................................Succeed
Module HLR1 : .......................................Succeed
Module HLR2 : .......................................Succeed
Module MFGP : .......................................Succeed
Module AMPM : .......................................Succeed
Module MFGT : .......................................Succeed
Module DMP1 : .......................................Succeed
Module SDM1 : .......................................Succeed
Module SVLG : .......................................Succeed
Module DDD0 : .......................................Succeed
Module DIAG : .......................................Succeed
Module WRT0 : .......................................Succeed
Module WRT1 : .......................................Succeed
Backup module : .....................................Complete

Reading ROM
Save path:D:\ROM\TOSHIBA HDWD110-MS2OA8R0-X8V2GPVFS - poprawny\Data\ROM\
Save ROM : ..........................................Succeed
Clearing G-List,Please wait...
Clear G-List : ......................................OK


unfortunately, without success, it still reads data at a speed of 4-8kb/s
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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba P300 - HDWD110 - very slow data reading
PostPosted: November 7th, 2023, 10:51 
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That's what i thought, but before thinking to swap heads, you should try to stop reallocation process.
You could try to load a LDR on ram, i think you can do that with "write ram in batches" option, but i don't remember if that option does really work.
As many mrt users already know, mrt has a lot of bugs, Toshiba and Hitachi utilitys are very poorly supported... for some reason mrt does research only on WD and Seagate solutions.
Ask to mrt tech support if and how to load LDR of hitachi arm, because in the past it never worked for me.


P.S.
Do also backup RAM

If it is a head releated issue, you might start Data Explorer for start cloning process by doing head map and virtually turn off heads that you suspect are bad/weak.
If one head has problems, this can help you to clone all other surfaces at good speed.
To do this, you must keep fw utility opened.
I suggest to use very low reading timings in DE (example 150 ms), and tick software reset and set it to 80 ms, untick drive repower.
It that doesn't help try also hardware reset (example 200 ms).
Set also large jumps (example 1.000.000) on bad and slow sectors.

Clone on a 3th drive, please do not overwrite on the destination drive that you've used with DDrescue!

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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba P300 - HDWD110 - very slow data reading
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ok probably i have a small success
im restart MRT software and my LAB-PC
im create new data recovery case in mrt
reads a small portion of data
create head map
and finally shutdown head 1
now im read 40-60mb/s
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PostPosted: November 14th, 2023, 16:14 
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Seem that head 1 is faulty then.
Are you cloning drive to drive or drive to image?

MRT when clones via image doesn't show steady speed, but when you clone drive to drive then speed is pretty stable (if heads are good).
40-60 MB/s doesn't seem to be steady speed and is also pretty slow if your cloning drive to drive, in this case you might have another head with some issue (weak head).
40-60 MB/s cloning speed it might be normal if you are doing drive to image clone.

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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba P300 - HDWD110 - very slow data reading
PostPosted: November 14th, 2023, 17:01 
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im cloning drive to image
im read all via head 0 but i steel dont have half data
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probably the data for which head 1 is responsible

what should I do now? replacing heads?

currently reading data marked "Skip when reading" as using head 1
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