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 Post subject: Non SMR-drives in the 10TB+ capacity
PostPosted: September 5th, 2018, 8:03 
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I am looking for a non SMR-drives in the 10TB+ capacity span. I was looking for the WD Gold 12TB but since there are alternatives I've also looked into the HGST-drives although I've heard the support is unfortunately lacking at HGST despite being owned by WD. The Seagate drives are all SMR-drives in the biggest capacities so I can easily exclude them so there's only Toshiba left but I haven't head anything about them, regarding their reliability and speed.

And since they're all Enterprise drives i wonder which one are the most quiet one? The WD Gold does in idle go down to 20dB which is rather good.

What do you guys think?


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 Post subject: Re: Non SMR-drives in the 10TB+ capacity
PostPosted: September 5th, 2018, 11:46 
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1. WD does not make 10+ TB HDDs. What you see are re-branded HGST drives
2. Not all Seagate drives are SMR

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 Post subject: Re: Non SMR-drives in the 10TB+ capacity
PostPosted: September 5th, 2018, 18:51 
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Doomer wrote:
1. WD does not make 10+ TB HDDs. What you see are re-branded HGST drives
2. Not all Seagate drives are SMR


You failed to answer anything of my answers. A typical shit response.

I know WD will phase out the HGST-brand but I've not read anywhere from a good source stating they should be re-branded HGST drives. And what drives are not Seagate SMR-drives then, i guess you don't know it yourself? I know for certain their Archive drives definitely is SMR drives.


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 Post subject: Re: Non SMR-drives in the 10TB+ capacity
PostPosted: September 5th, 2018, 20:12 
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@dj christian, welcome to DR. :-|

AIUI, WD's Gold drives are rebadged HGST helium models. There are lots of clues on the PCB and on the label. Just pick one and I'll show you. :-)

Here is one example:

http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2379&p=17312

... and another:

http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?t=2353&p=18946#p18946

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 Post subject: Re: Non SMR-drives in the 10TB+ capacity
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fzabkar wrote:
@dj christian, welcome to DR. :-|

AIUI, WD's Gold drives are rebadged HGST helium models. There are lots of clues on the PCB and on the label. Just pick one and I'll show you. :-)

Here is one example:

http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2379&p=17312

... and another:

http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?t=2353&p=18946#p18946


Thank you!

Now back to the topic! Which one should i pick? There doesn't seem to be much of options.


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 Post subject: Re: Non SMR-drives in the 10TB+ capacity
PostPosted: September 5th, 2018, 23:03 
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dj christian wrote:
You failed to answer anything of my answers. A typical shit response.
Well, the only question you asked is "What do you guys think?"
If you don't like the answer then you can go f yourself.

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 Post subject: Re: Non SMR-drives in the 10TB+ capacity
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Doomer wrote:
dj christian wrote:
You failed to answer anything of my answers. A typical shit response.
Well, the only question you asked is "What do you guys think?"
If you don't like the answer then you can go f yourself.

He has 2 posts, what did you expect? :)

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dj christian wrote:
You failed to answer anything of my answers. A typical shit response.
A typical present-day data recovery client attitude :)

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 Post subject: Re: Non SMR-drives in the 10TB+ capacity
PostPosted: September 6th, 2018, 10:05 
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helpdisc wrote:
Doomer wrote:
dj christian wrote:
You failed to answer anything of my answers. A typical shit response.
Well, the only question you asked is "What do you guys think?"
If you don't like the answer then you can go f yourself.

He has 2 posts, what did you expect? :)


Seems the elitism is high in this forum and the expertise seems to be unwilling to help. Still i haven't gotten a straight answer. I can take a remark that I've was wrong regarding WD, they are only rebagded HGST drives but that wasn't the case before WD bought HGST and may not be the case until a year or two after. The second poster should've at least at same time give me some examples of SMR-drives beside the remark but he didn't, neither did fzakbar.

I take it as there are no SMR drives in the 10TB capacity.


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 Post subject: Re: Non SMR-drives in the 10TB+ capacity
PostPosted: September 6th, 2018, 10:58 
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Your post was answered by probably the most knowledgeable member of this entire forum, if you were more specific in your question or a little bit nicer in your response I am sure you would get answers to your questions. Now, though, I am not so sure....


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 Post subject: Re: Non SMR-drives in the 10TB+ capacity
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hddguy wrote:
Your post was answered by probably the most knowledgeable member of this entire forum, if you were more specific in your question or a little bit nicer in your response I am sure you would get answers to your questions. Now, though, I am not so sure....


If he was the most knowledgeable he would give me some good tip of which 10TB+ drives after mentioning the faults in my post which i do not have absolutely no problem with. It's funny that none has yet to give me any good answers yet instead of continuing rambling about my first post and harsh reply. Sorry for the word shit word though but he just didn't answer my initial question.

Now i know which drives to buy without any of his help, I just wanted some tip before i go ahead and pick that HGST rebranded WD Gold drive i was looking for.


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 Post subject: Re: Non SMR-drives in the 10TB+ capacity
PostPosted: September 6th, 2018, 14:39 
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You insulted one of US. Good guys. Why do you think someone must answer you ? Smart guys spend a lot of hours working hard. Every day somone who is not in DR world comes and asks why his drive is smaller then 1tb and such stupid questions...
If I were in your place , I would start next post with I am sorry...
If not door will be closed one by one....

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 Post subject: Re: Non SMR-drives in the 10TB+ capacity
PostPosted: September 6th, 2018, 15:33 
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helpdisc wrote:
You insulted one of US. Good guys. Why do you think someone must answer you ? Smart guys spend a lot of hours working hard. Every day somone who is not in DR world comes and asks why his drive is smaller then 1tb and such stupid questions...
If I were in your place , I would start next post with I am sorry...
If not door will be closed one by one....


That's it! I will mail the mods to delete this thread. I have to go elsewhere unfortunately..


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 Post subject: Re: Non SMR-drives in the 10TB+ capacity
PostPosted: September 6th, 2018, 15:57 
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You might like to ask about quiet HDDs here:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/

BTW, I don't know the answer to your SMR question, but I would consult Seagate's product manuals (although these are not always helpful).

http://www.google.com/search?q="product+manual"+SMR+OR+shingled+filetype:pdf+site:seagate.com+10TB+OR+12TB+OR+14TB

http://www.google.com/search?q="product+manual"+-SMR+-shingled+filetype:pdf+site:seagate.com+10TB+OR+12TB+OR+14TB

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 Post subject: Re: Non SMR-drives in the 10TB+ capacity
PostPosted: September 8th, 2018, 4:35 
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https://www.hgst.com/products/hard-driv ... r-dc-hc520


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 Post subject: Re: Non SMR-drives in the 10TB+ capacity
PostPosted: September 8th, 2018, 19:47 
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A sample of genuine fakes ...

How to Recover Data from "Fake" Maxtor/[Seagate/HGST/WD/Toshiba] Drives:
https://blog.acelaboratory.com/pc-3000-for-hdd-seagate-f3-data-recovery-from-fake-maxtor-drive-led-cc-problem-and-its-solution-using-spindle-isolation.html

Also ...

http://forum.acelaboratory.com/viewtopic.php?t=9535&p=35321#p35321

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