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 Post subject: Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... ?
PostPosted: December 15th, 2018, 9:16 
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Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... (Palmer families) ?
We have started recieving them for recovery purposes with strange bahaving similar to slow responding problem? I that SED kind of lock? Access to the terminal aslo blocked :(


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... ?
PostPosted: December 16th, 2018, 11:17 
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MasterOfpuppets wrote:
Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... (Palmer families) ?
We have started recieving them for recovery purposes with strange bahaving similar to slow responding problem? I that SED kind of lock? Access to the terminal aslo blocked :(


And the latest version of PC-3000 can't work with those as well and aparently ROM is signed/locked, etc etc ... so ... outsource to someone that can work with those ?

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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... ?
PostPosted: December 16th, 2018, 12:03 
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Spildit wrote:
MasterOfpuppets wrote:
Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... (Palmer families) ?
We have started recieving them for recovery purposes with strange bahaving similar to slow responding problem? I that SED kind of lock? Access to the terminal aslo blocked :(


And the latest version of PC-3000 can't work with those as well and aparently ROM is signed/locked, etc etc ... so ... outsource to someone that can work with those ?


What met a disk, once, which been unlocked, and pc3k was able to deal with SA under different family ID.
So, the mater is how to break lock system only, right?


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... ?
PostPosted: December 16th, 2018, 14:51 
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Spildit wrote:
MasterOfpuppets wrote:
Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... (Palmer families) ?
We have started recieving them for recovery purposes with strange bahaving similar to slow responding problem? I that SED kind of lock? Access to the terminal aslo blocked :(


And the latest version of PC-3000 can't work with those as well and aparently ROM is signed/locked, etc etc ... so ... outsource to someone that can work with those ?



I would love to know who does it. 20 People I know who require a slow read fix. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... ?
PostPosted: December 16th, 2018, 20:13 
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Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... (Palmer families) ?

Yes, I do.
But what's next? Are you willing to outsource?

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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... ?
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Doomer wrote:
MasterOfpuppets wrote:
Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... (Palmer families) ?

Yes, I do.
But what's next?
Are you willing to outsource?

I would like to, do you know someone in Eu where to outsource and who can solve them aswell as you?
Same can you do for the Chargers families?
What do you think if we buy factory unlocked Palmers (which are present on the market) , can that help to find solution how to unlock all the rest ?


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... ?
PostPosted: December 17th, 2018, 15:35 
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MasterOfpuppets wrote:
Doomer wrote:
MasterOfpuppets wrote:
Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... (Palmer families) ?

Yes, I do.
But what's next?
Are you willing to outsource?

I would like to, do you know someone in Eu where to outsource and who can solve them aswell as you?
Same can you do for the Chargers families?
What do you think if we buy factory unlocked Palmers (which are present on the market) , can that help to find solution how to unlock all the rest ?


Do you have factory unlocked Palmers ? There are several stuff that you can try then ....

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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... ?
PostPosted: December 19th, 2018, 0:17 
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Spildit wrote:
MasterOfpuppets wrote:
Doomer wrote:
MasterOfpuppets wrote:
Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... (Palmer families) ?

Yes, I do.
But what's next?
Are you willing to outsource?

I would like to, do you know someone in Eu where to outsource and who can solve them aswell as you?
Same can you do for the Chargers families?
What do you think if we buy factory unlocked Palmers (which are present on the market) , can that help to find solution how to unlock all the rest ?


Do you have factory unlocked Palmers ? There are several stuff that you can try then ....


Yes, i have purchased one from http://www.donordrives.com/unlocked-wd1 ... drive.html
A little expensive :( but what to do if need R&D
Which tricks should i try? Any sugestions?


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... ?
PostPosted: December 19th, 2018, 1:24 
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I would start by dumping the ROM from the unlocked drive and comparing it against the locked drive. If you can access the SA on the unlocked drive, then create a loader and transfer the patient's adaptives to the unlocked ROM. Then see if you can access the patient's SA with the donor ROM + patient adaptives + donor loader.

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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... ?
PostPosted: December 19th, 2018, 6:30 
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Hi,
The lock is connected to the PCB (MCU) and not to the ROM
After the ROM is loaded from the unlocked disk to the locked disk, the disk is still blocked
Please add an exact photo of the unlocked PCB

Mikippp


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... ?
PostPosted: December 19th, 2018, 14:02 
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If you have one unlocked PCB ....

You can try to write ROM modules from patient to unlocked PCB (or even maybe the entire ROM image) and test. If the "lock" is at MCU level only the MCU of the unlocked PCB with the ROM of the locked drive should provide SA access ... IF not you can try to patch on the unlocked ROM/PCB the ROM modules (adaptives)of the locked ROM/PCB and swap PCBs ... Or you can try hot swap ...

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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... ?
PostPosted: December 20th, 2018, 7:39 
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DFL is offering a PCB at USD 500 !!!
https://www.hddheadtools.com/product/wd ... overy-pcb/

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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... ?
PostPosted: December 20th, 2018, 12:09 
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Mikippp wrote:
Hi,
The lock is connected to the PCB (MCU) and not to the ROM
After the ROM is loaded from the unlocked disk to the locked disk, the disk is still blocked
Please add an exact photo of the unlocked PCB

Mikippp


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... ?
PostPosted: December 20th, 2018, 12:15 
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Mikippp wrote:
Hi,
The lock is connected to the PCB (MCU) and not to the ROM
After the ROM is loaded from the unlocked disk to the locked disk, the disk is still blocked
Please add an exact photo of the unlocked PCB

Mikippp


You are right, without (MCU) from unlocked there is nothing can be done with locked PCB.
Transfering ROM from unlocked donor's pcb to patient pcb (lleaving neccesary original things), doesnt help.
Transfering ROM from Patient disk to donor PCB make the same.
MCU somehow linked with own ROM, or with some code.


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... ?
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Can you use hot swap to access SA of locked drive ?

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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... ?
PostPosted: December 20th, 2018, 16:56 
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Spildit wrote:
Can you use hot swap to access SA of locked drive ?


It is pointless, due of 4F module presence like on previouse families.


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... ?
PostPosted: December 20th, 2018, 17:14 
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I have analysed a "locked" ROM here:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=36673

There are 4 new adaptive ROYL modules (181h, 1A2h, 1B0h and 1B6h) plus two ROYL modules with ID = 0xDDDD.

Doomer wrote:
DDDD is a security overlay for initial security initialization and digital signature (of code modules) checking

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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone know solution to access SA for WD10SPZX... ?
PostPosted: December 20th, 2018, 17:50 
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This "Hitachi" model (HTS541010B7E610) appears to use the same PCB:

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/TRoAAOSwfqFaoBN6/s-l1600.jpg

Would it be worthwhile investigating whether the firmware (01.01A01) is any different? I suspect that it's just a case of badge engineering, but who knows?

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