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 Post subject: Sony SF-64UX sd card monolith recory
PostPosted: July 16th, 2015, 5:12 
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Hello everyone,

I have a similar problem to the one described in this thread by sloth: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=27317
I'm also new to this forum and also found it on my search for help/knowledge/advice.

After taking some pictures over several weeks, I have put my SD card into a Canon Selphy CP910 photo printer to print out some shots. Since I have ejected the card, it is not readable/recognizable anymore. Neither my pc nor the camera or any other device even shows me, that there is a card inserted. It seems as if this printer has damaged the card. Recovery by software is thus not possible. I suspected (at least) the controller to be defect. The sd card is a Sony 64 GB SDXC UHS1 Class 10 (SF-64UX).

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Next step was to send the card to a recovery company to get an analysis as well as a proposal for recovery (I don't have a picture of the monolith, because the card is still at the recovery company). They confirmed that the controller is defect and they could try to recover data for a price of 1000 EUR. They told me, that it is a monolithic sd card, which requires manual soldering under a microscope over 15 hours, which is the reason for this high costs. If they can't recover any data, I still have to pay 500 EUR.

It's really a pity that the pictures are lost (at least at the moment), because we had some really beautiful family shots with our children. But I don't have so much budget to spend for "some beautiful pictures". I don't want to dishonor the work they have to do to get the data back, but I found others to do this to a more affordable price. One told me, that he could recover the data, but he doesn't know the pinout for this specific monolith. If I can get it, he would recover the data.

So I searched back and forth in the internet, came over Russian and Chinese sites but had to realize, that I wasn't able to really find a specific pinout diagram. I even contacted Sony support, but they only talked about intellectual property and internal information. They do have a 5 year warranty on their cards, but if it fails, they only replace it by a new one. Dataloss is a problem of the customer. It seems to me, that there is no chance to get the pinout.

I even thought about buying a flash reader from Rusolut, Ace Lab or Soft Center. If I got it right, they provide pinout information with their products. Especially the Rusolut solution is quite impressive, but you'll need to do recoveries more often justify such an invest (e. g. Rusolut with 1699 EUR for their Kit). After one year, you are even "locked out" from their database if you don't spend another 499 EUR per year. I understand, that this price is probably good for the solution they provide and some of you use the kit they sell, but in my case, it is not affordable.

Finally, I'm hoping to get some advice here, how I could further proceed. Is there a chance to find anyone/any resource that provides the pinout information? To whom would you refer in my situation? Has anyone opened such card before? Thanks a lot in advance for your answers.

JJF


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 Post subject: Re: Sony SF-64UX sd card monolith recory
PostPosted: July 16th, 2015, 6:08 
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It would be grate if you can receive photos/scan of this monolith from DR company where you send the card. You can compare with our monolith database:
http://odzyskiwanie-danych.com.pl/monol ... abase.html

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 Post subject: Sony SF-64UX sd card monolith picture
PostPosted: July 31st, 2015, 5:01 
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Hello again everyone,

after several days, they managed to send the sd card back. Here is a picture of the monolith:

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Does anyone recognize the pinout? Thanks in advance.

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 Post subject: Re: Sony SF-64UX sd card monolith recory
PostPosted: July 31st, 2015, 5:50 
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None of my tool databases have that one, nor is it the same as any of my private ones. so if anyone does they likely developed pinout themselves and I doubt would share it. There are similar pinouts with rows of 7 and 8 pads, but not a good idea, or probably fruitful, to guess.

If there was a working card we could develop the pinout.. I know it is expensive to buy more cards, especially when you won't know what is inside the case until you rip it open, but necessary. I remember buying must have been 20 Kingston 8GB MicroSD Cards trying to match one, only to not get one.

for a flash DR firm it would be worth developing that pinout as it is likely fairly popular.

I think unless someone puts their hand up with a pinout, and will do the job for you, OR you can get a working card and develop pinout.. I cant see a solution. Guessing based on similar pinouts MAY be a last resort option, but really probably a timewaster.

next time I see one looking like that I will buy it , cant ever have too many monoliths ;)


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 Post subject: Sony SF-64UX sd card monolithic recovery
PostPosted: July 31st, 2015, 6:08 
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Jumpin Jack Flash wrote:
I suspected (at least) the controller to be defect. The sd card is a Sony 64 GB SDXC UHS1 Class 10 (SF-64UX).
I do not work with flash myself, but I believe we've seen these monoliths.
Again, I may be wrong, but if I recall correctly, the ones we've been getting were rather problematic, so it could happen that chances of recovery aren't too high, unfortunately.

Anyway, if it's OK for you to send the card abroad, we'll do our best to help and won't ask to pay anything if it will turn out to be unrecoverable.


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 Post subject: Re: Sony SF-64UX sd card monolith recory
PostPosted: July 31st, 2015, 7:23 
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Very similar to this one: http://odzyskiwanie-danych.com.pl/image ... arvika.jpg I have 90% of pinout already.

And now I working on other one Sony SF-8UX. Pins are exactly same, traces little different, but pinout should be same for both.

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 Post subject: Re: Sony SF-64UX sd card monolith recory
PostPosted: August 5th, 2015, 4:09 
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Hello again,

thanks to everyone for your replies. Seems like this monolith is not (yet?) listed in common databases as HaQue mentioned.

arvika's post sounds most promising. Could you keep me/us up-to-date concerning your progresses with your SF-8UX monolith? Thank you! Or do you need additional monoliths for further testing first?

Pinout comparison (as far as you got) of your SF-8UY and SF-8UX could be interesting or even helpful for investigation. Maybe some pins have the same functionality.

JJF


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 Post subject: Re: Sony SF-64UX sd card monolith recory
PostPosted: August 12th, 2015, 5:32 
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i think it same type with my case SONY 32GB monolith SD
http://www.rflashdata.com/sony-32gb-monolith-sd-pinout/
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 Post subject: Re: Sony SF-64UX sd card monolith recory
PostPosted: June 30th, 2016, 10:50 
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Hey guys,

me again (user name changed a bit, because I forgot my password and my mail address changed. Could not manage to contact an administrator yet to recover my account, anyways...).

I am interested if anyone made progress on this sd card.

@arvika: What do you think of trying to recover the card? Dmitri offered to give it a try, but he thinks chances of recovery aren't too high. Maybe you manage to do it, since you have similar pinouts? How would I proceed? PM for details?

Looking forward for answers. Thanks for your support.

JJF


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 Post subject: Re: Sony SF-64UX sd card monolith recory
PostPosted: June 30th, 2016, 17:58 
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Please send me PM.

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 Post subject: Re: Sony SF-64UX sd card monolith recory
PostPosted: July 1st, 2016, 4:00 
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Ok, I'll do this as soon as I am allowed to...

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 Post subject: Re: Sony SF-64UX sd card monolith recory
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JumpinJackFlash wrote:
Ok, I'll do this as soon as I am allowed to...

"We are sorry, but you are not authorised to use this feature. You may have just registered here and may need to participate more to be able to use this feature."

Arvika's info is in his signature.

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