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 Post subject: Cell Phone Chip Off Recoveries
PostPosted: March 15th, 2016, 12:38 
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Is this possible to do (iPhones excluded).

I have an LG G3 which has been run over by a car and a Motorola Droid Turbo which has been to a cell phone store and they couldn't get the phone to work so again presumably a chip off is the only way. I have searched the forum and found a lot about KIA'a and Ferrari's but not much about cell phone chip offs. I know PC-3000 flash does not offer this.

Cell phones is an area we want to get into, but realize it is a whole new ball of wax.

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 Post subject: Re: Cell Phone Chip Off Recoveries
PostPosted: March 15th, 2016, 13:31 
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What kind of memory is there? If eMMC like in most of smartphones, we are able read it. By eMMC interface or some by NAND interface. Here you can see some models:

http://odzyskiwanie-danych.com.pl/monol ... abase.html

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 Post subject: Re: Cell Phone Chip Off Recoveries
PostPosted: March 15th, 2016, 14:12 
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arvika wrote:
What kind of memory is there? If eMMC like in most of smartphones, we are able read it. By eMMC interface or some by NAND interface. Here you can see some models:

http://odzyskiwanie-danych.com.pl/monol ... abase.html

Not sure of the chip yet, just wanted a general idea first before I tore them apart. I will let you know. Thanks :D

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 Post subject: Re: Cell Phone Chip Off Recoveries
PostPosted: March 15th, 2016, 14:59 
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ddrecovery wrote:
arvika wrote:
What kind of memory is there? If eMMC like in most of smartphones, we are able read it. By eMMC interface or some by NAND interface. Here you can see some models:

http://odzyskiwanie-danych.com.pl/monol ... abase.html

Not sure of the chip yet, just wanted a general idea first before I tore them apart. I will let you know. Thanks :D


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Could You Wait For a Day Or So I Am Planning To Create a New Thread To Explain Many Of You Handle These Issues . BTW None Of These Tools Like PC-3000 ,Rusolut Or Softcenter Are Required For These .You Need a Investment of Approx USD 1000 To Handle Most Phones ,Can You Gimme a Day or So For This

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 Post subject: Re: Cell Phone Chip Off Recoveries
PostPosted: March 15th, 2016, 15:05 
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Amarbir[CDR-Labs] wrote:
Well,
Could You Wait For a Day Or So I Am Planning To Create a New Thread To Explain Many Of You Handle These Issues . BTW None Of These Tools Like PC-3000 ,Rusolut Or Softcenter Are Required For These .You Need a Investment of Approx USD 1000 To Handle Most Phones ,Can You Gimme a Day or So For This

Of course Amarbir. I think we are all very keen to hear the answer :D

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 Post subject: Re: Cell Phone Chip Off Recoveries
PostPosted: March 15th, 2016, 15:18 
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ddrecovery wrote:
Amarbir[CDR-Labs] wrote:
Well,
Could You Wait For a Day Or So I Am Planning To Create a New Thread To Explain Many Of You Handle These Issues . BTW None Of These Tools Like PC-3000 ,Rusolut Or Softcenter Are Required For These .You Need a Investment of Approx USD 1000 To Handle Most Phones ,Can You Gimme a Day or So For This

Of course Amarbir. I think we are all very keen to hear the answer :D


Well,
Then hang on for a day or so ok

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 Post subject: Re: Cell Phone Chip Off Recoveries
PostPosted: March 17th, 2016, 13:22 
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ddrecovery wrote:
Of course Amarbir. I think we are all very keen to hear the answer :D

definitely, will be waiting too.


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 Post subject: Re: Cell Phone Chip Off Recoveries
PostPosted: March 22nd, 2016, 16:17 
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Amarbir[CDR-Labs wrote:
Well, Could You Wait For a Day Or So I Am Planning To Create a New Thread To Explain Many Of You Handle These Issues . BTW None Of These Tools Like PC-3000 ,Rusolut Or Softcenter Are Required For These .You Need a Investment of Approx USD 1000 To Handle Most Phones ,Can You Gimme a Day or So For This

Any news??

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 Post subject: Re: Cell Phone Chip Off Recoveries
PostPosted: March 23rd, 2016, 2:48 
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You only need a emmc socket to do data recovery. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Cell Phone Chip Off Recoveries
PostPosted: March 23rd, 2016, 4:47 
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Its not true. It helps not big % of cases.

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 Post subject: Re: Cell Phone Chip Off Recoveries
PostPosted: March 23rd, 2016, 5:05 
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arvika wrote:
Its not true. It helps not big % of cases.


+10

need more than a socket to do that +TIME

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 Post subject: Re: Cell Phone Chip Off Recoveries
PostPosted: March 23rd, 2016, 5:32 
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einstein9 wrote:
...+TIME

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 Post subject: Re: Cell Phone Chip Off Recoveries
PostPosted: April 24th, 2016, 18:12 
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My company specializes in forensics on phones which are damaged or not supported by regular forensic equipment. Generally, we use chip-off, JTAG, or ISP/Direct eMMC methods to get a image of the flash chips. We have worked both the LG G3 and Droid Turbo XT1254 phones you mention and they both use eMMC memory. They can either be imaged by chip-off or ISP (in circuit without removing the chip). There are several options to read eMMC memory (including SD/USB socket adapters) but for phones with NAND chips we use various universal programmers and adapters. Feel free to contact me with any questions about equipment or analysis software options.


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 Post subject: Re: Cell Phone Chip Off Recoveries
PostPosted: April 25th, 2016, 3:30 
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binaryintel wrote:
My company specializes in forensics on phones which are damaged or not supported by regular forensic equipment. Generally, we use chip-off, JTAG, or ISP/Direct eMMC methods to get a image of the flash chips. We have worked both the LG G3 and Droid Turbo XT1254 phones you mention and they both use eMMC memory. They can either be imaged by chip-off or ISP (in circuit without removing the chip). There are several options to read eMMC memory (including SD/USB socket adapters) but for phones with NAND chips we use various universal programmers and adapters. Feel free to contact me with any questions about equipment or analysis software options.


So you find the TP(s) and apply your method to access the Internal Memory Dump and then Process it with Mobile Forensic Tools right?
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 Post subject: Re: Cell Phone Chip Off Recoveries
PostPosted: April 25th, 2016, 17:48 
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Yep, that's pretty much it in a nutshell :beer:

#1 determine pinout for JTAG/ISP or pull the chip
#2 dump the memory
#3 fire up the appropriate mobile forensic software tools (if we're lucky and the device is supported)


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 Post subject: Re: Cell Phone Chip Off Recoveries
PostPosted: April 25th, 2016, 17:51 
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Amarbir[CDR-Labs] wrote:
ddrecovery wrote:
Amarbir[CDR-Labs] wrote:
Well,
Could You Wait For a Day Or So I Am Planning To Create a New Thread To Explain Many Of You Handle These Issues . BTW None Of These Tools Like PC-3000 ,Rusolut Or Softcenter Are Required For These .You Need a Investment of Approx USD 1000 To Handle Most Phones ,Can You Gimme a Day or So For This

Of course Amarbir. I think we are all very keen to hear the answer :D


Well,
Then hang on for a day or so ok


Hey, Big A.. I'm interested to see what you were going to write in the new thread you said you were going to create. :-)

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 Post subject: Re: Cell Phone Chip Off Recoveries
PostPosted: April 26th, 2016, 2:41 
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binaryintel wrote:
Yep, that's pretty much it in a nutshell :beer:

#1 determine pinout for JTAG/ISP or pull the chip
#2 dump the memory
#3 fire up the appropriate mobile forensic software tools (if we're lucky and the device is supported)


PM Sent. :idea:

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 Post subject: Re: Cell Phone Chip Off Recoveries
PostPosted: April 26th, 2016, 12:36 
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Amarbir[CDR-Labs] wrote:
Then hang on for a day or so ok

Amarbir, We have been waiting for 6 weeks for the 'day or so'. Any update? We don't expect miracles, just an update. We all have clients we are trying to appease waiting for your response.

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 Post subject: Re: Cell Phone Chip Off Recoveries
PostPosted: May 3rd, 2016, 23:48 
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Amarbir[CDR-Labs] wrote:
Then hang on for a day or so ok

Amarbir, We have been waiting for 6 weeks for the 'day or so'. Any update? We don't expect miracles, just an update. We all have clients we are trying to appease waiting for your response.


Hi DDRecovery ,
My Fathers elder Brother Had Expired And We Were In a Mourning Period ,I Will Do This ASAP For You And Post It Online

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 Post subject: Re: Cell Phone Chip Off Recoveries
PostPosted: May 4th, 2016, 12:45 
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Amarbir[CDR-Labs] wrote:
Hi DDRecovery ,
My Fathers elder Brother Had Expired And We Were In a Mourning Period ,I Will Do This ASAP For You And Post It Online

Sorry to hear about your loss. No hurry.

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