Just got a Lexar CF Card in with these chips. I cannot find the specs from the number on the chip. Are they BGA 152?
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| Author: | ddrecovery [ October 27th, 2017, 15:38 ] | |||
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Just got a Lexar CF Card in with these chips. I cannot find the specs from the number on the chip. Are they BGA 152?
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| Author: | Bolo [ October 27th, 2017, 15:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is This a BGA 152 Chip |
It's BGA100 chip - there are sockets or direct BGA boards for this. You can look in VNR standard set  If you need to solder then page 18 on ONFI - http://www.onfi.org/~/media/onfi/specs/ ... .pdf?la=en |
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| Author: | ddrecovery [ October 27th, 2017, 15:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is This a BGA 152 Chip |
Bolo wrote: It's BGA100 chip - there are sockets or direct BGA boards for this. You can look in VNR standard set If you need to solder then page 18 on ONFI - http://www.onfi.org/~/media/onfi/specs/ ... .pdf?la=en Many thanks. I do have VNR set so we should be good. Thanks again. |
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| Author: | ddrecovery [ October 27th, 2017, 16:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is This a BGA 152 Chip |
Hhhmmm. None of the 4 chips will ID. I think its the first time I have had BGA100 chips in, so it may be a bad socket  . I will send it back to VNR for testing.
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| Author: | pcimage [ October 27th, 2017, 16:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is This a BGA 152 Chip |
Dunno if it’s related but I had a similar problem a long time ago with the BGA-100 socket for SC I bought from Sunny. Would work with some chips but not others, but credit to Sunny he got me to make a mod to wiring underneath the socket (cut a track and wire in a new connection as I remember) and it worked fine and has been doing ever since 
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| Author: | Amarbir[CDR-Labs] [ October 27th, 2017, 16:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is This a BGA 152 Chip |
Hello DDrecovery , While learning flash these days i have come to know that there are many ways to read most chips and specific ways to read some chips .I do not agree that the socket would be bad or all of your 4 chips are fried ,Its impossible that all 4 are .Definately Not BGA 152 That Beast Has a Different Pinout All Together .What All Tools you Have ? . @ Bolo, When Are The Monolith Sd Card Adapters Coming Out Boss ,I Am Waiting For Those |
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| Author: | ddrecovery [ October 27th, 2017, 17:19 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is This a BGA 152 Chip |
I tested a few other BGA100 chips I had and none of them would ID. I have just reballed the first chip from the case and soldered it to the PC3000 Flash BGA100 module and it has ID'd and is now reading. Just unlucky to have a bad socket I guess. The service from VNR is normally pretty good, so I will send it back for testing. They may learn from what has gone wrong with this one. Thanks for the replies. As I have to reball and mount each chip. Is there a way to correct ECC in PC3000 Flash chip by chip? I know it defaults to wanting the next chip read, but can this be stopped to complete ECC correction before reading the next chip? |
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| Author: | HaQue [ October 27th, 2017, 17:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is This a BGA 152 Chip |
you can find the dumps in the PC3K folder hierarchy and import them to VNR or just an idea, I don't have PC3K but may work.. pretend to PC3K that it is 4 separate cases to complete ECC in each chip before reading next one |
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| Author: | ddrecovery [ October 27th, 2017, 17:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is This a BGA 152 Chip |
HaQue wrote: or just an idea, I don't have PC3K but may work.. pretend to PC3K that it is 4 separate cases to complete ECC in each chip before reading next one Might just work you know
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| Author: | Amarbir[CDR-Labs] [ October 28th, 2017, 6:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is This a BGA 152 Chip |
ddrecovery wrote: I tested a few other BGA100 chips I had and none of them would ID. I have just reballed the first chip from the case and soldered it to the PC3000 Flash BGA100 module and it has ID'd and is now reading. Just unlucky to have a bad socket I guess. The service from VNR is normally pretty good, so I will send it back for testing. They may learn from what has gone wrong with this one. Thanks for the replies. As I have to reball and mount each chip. Is there a way to correct ECC in PC3000 Flash chip by chip? I know it defaults to wanting the next chip read, but can this be stopped to complete ECC correction before reading the next chip? Well, This Depends on The ZIFF Socket Used by developer .In some the ic has to have balls and then it will read and in some you have to make sure you Remove The Solder on The Pads ,I have a BGA 132 Case Going On Right Now And i Made 3 videos on it on my facebook .Do check em out - > http://www.chandigarhdatarecovery.com/2 ... media.html .I was playing around with a irda machine for BGA removal today And i have a case today with SM2236G With 4 BGA 132 Each With 32 GB And 4 Planes Damn 
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| Author: | Amarbir[CDR-Labs] [ October 28th, 2017, 9:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is This a BGA 152 Chip |
Hi, Here images for you for BGA 152 And BGA 132 1 :  2 : 
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| Author: | Bolo [ October 28th, 2017, 9:39 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is This a BGA 152 Chip |
@ddrecovery: you can freely read by PC3K or SC and then import to VNR (just open as Physical Image) |
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| Author: | Amarbir[CDR-Labs] [ October 28th, 2017, 10:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is This a BGA 152 Chip |
Bolo wrote: @ddrecovery: you can freely read by PC3K or SC and then import to VNR (just open as Physical Image) Bolo, You missed my question i had asked you when do we expect those monolith sd adapters ,micro sd are already there i know |
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| Author: | ddrecovery [ October 28th, 2017, 11:40 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is This a BGA 152 Chip |
Bolo wrote: @ddrecovery: you can freely read by PC3K or SC and then import to VNR (just open as Physical Image) Yep, I have done that before both to and from PC3K. But as I am reading the chips on PC3K I may as well carry on there
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| Author: | Bolo [ October 28th, 2017, 16:46 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is This a BGA 152 Chip |
@Amarbir: very...very soon
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| Author: | Amarbir[CDR-Labs] [ October 30th, 2017, 2:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is This a BGA 152 Chip |
Bolo wrote: @Amarbir: very...very soon Well, i am super excited 
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| Author: | jcur [ December 17th, 2017, 15:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is This a BGA 152 Chip |
The chip is Micron MT29F256G08AUCABK4-10:A, where 'K4' is the package code. Micron's use 'H1', 'H2, and 'H3' codes for their BGA100 depending on the package thickness, but I can't find any information about 'K4' code. I suspect that this chip may have an non-standard package or pinout. BTW, they have a very similar chip with a standard package code: "MT29F256G08AUCABH3-10:A". |
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| Author: | Bolo [ December 18th, 2017, 16:07 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is This a BGA 152 Chip |
@jcur: Check ONFI and make MAP pinout of your memory - you will see if it's match or not |
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| Author: | gald [ December 19th, 2017, 8:04 ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: Is This a BGA 152 Chip | ||
see this maybe help
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| Author: | fzabkar [ December 19th, 2017, 14:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is This a BGA 152 Chip |
FWIW ... NAND Flash Component Part Numbering Guide - SpecTek: https://www.spectek.com/pdfs/SpecTek_pns_Flash.pdf
H2 = 100-ball TBGA, 12 x 18 x 1.2 H3 = 100-ball LBGA, 12 x 18 x 1.4 K3 = 100-ball VLGA 12 x 18 x 0.9 K4 = 100-ball TLGA, 12 x 18 x 1.1 |
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