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Author: | fzabkar [ August 30th, 2018, 17:37 ] |
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Very clever! |
Author: | HaQue [ August 30th, 2018, 19:09 ] |
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without xray, how did you know where to dig, without damaging any needed traces in 2nd and 3rd layer and hitting the correct point in the 4th? |
Author: | jeremyb [ August 30th, 2018, 22:39 ] |
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How do you go down a layer so precisely? I can go down one layer with an Xacto knife before damaging the PCB on those tiny USB 3.0 drives. When I use a laser to ablate the area I hit silicon like a MicroSD card. |
Author: | arvika [ August 31st, 2018, 2:55 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Monolith UFD - interesting case |
We take into consider: - we find most of signals from pinout - we analyzed traces and vias position on monolith Based on this info we can guess with high probability where the memory module is inside and where we can meet traces. To remove layers we use scalpel and dremel with small abrasive stone. But you MUST BE VERY carefully. |
Author: | pcimage [ August 31st, 2018, 3:43 ] |
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Awesome work as always Michal! |
Author: | northwind [ August 31st, 2018, 5:33 ] |
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Incredible! Amazing work Michal! |
Author: | lcoughey [ August 31st, 2018, 7:28 ] |
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This is why Arvika is my goto lab for outsourcing complex flash cases. Of course, Michael makes most seem simple with how fast he is able to recover them. |
Author: | HaQue [ August 31st, 2018, 20:58 ] |
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Thanks Michal, it makes sense. Thanks for sharing, it is always interesting to see any flash work, and success instead of the 100th doom and gloom story! These very simple devices have a few complicating factors. It takes confidence to go digging around the layers. These are almost certainly test/research devices, not customers, so if you get the urge to try it, remember Michals warning. don't try this on customers devices unless you either are the last stop before the rubbish bin, or are VERY confident. If you are researching this, you could buy 3 or 4 of the exact same drive and start mapping the layers. You are able to afford a few small mistakes. Magnification is a real help here. If it is a customers, it is very hard in a lot of cases to find the exact same device. some look extremely similar an the surface, but can have revised traces inside layers, have different firmware etc making it hard to ever get a 100% same donor. I know that Arvika has helped not only their customers and other labs with outsourcing, but also the tool vendors with developing the tools themselves. |
Author: | labtech [ September 1st, 2018, 20:24 ] |
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Nice research initiative. Good stuff. Thanks for sharing. |
Author: | digisupport [ September 2nd, 2018, 7:34 ] |
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Good job Michał |
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