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 Post subject: are some vendors hurting the DR Community???
PostPosted: April 3rd, 2009, 10:26 
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Without naming a particular vendor :roll:

Is the aggressive marketing of a certain company and product hurting the DR community?
I have noticed that a particular vendor has flooded the internet with product marketing. It appears that their intentions could be to have every john doe perform Data Recovery. That certainly would be good for this firms revenue, but could possible have bad drawbacks for the established DR community. Especially If every IT guy starts providing Data Recovery!

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The purpose of the free demonstration is to offer an opportunity for our potential clients to know particular functions and advantages of ####. $%#%^ America Continent Market Dept. also wants to help more IT firms to expand business into data recovery and survive from the recession.


What do you guys think?


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 Post subject: Re: are some vendors hurting the DR Community???
PostPosted: April 3rd, 2009, 10:56 
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I think that knowledge will remain the only good not to by buy-able.
If any product makes 50% of DR jobs get DIY, the remaining 50% will be the more complicated jobs and as there are no easy goings for you to compensate for the tasks requiring own research, prices will increase. As people will never learn to do proper backup, the work will still have to be done.
Companies that offer backup solutions more sophisticated than a tape drive and some Symantec software, but a real custom solution, are probably a bigger threat :)


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 Post subject: Re: are some vendors hurting the DR Community???
PostPosted: April 3rd, 2009, 10:59 
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I don't feel very threatened at all...just as professional mechanics don't feel threatened by Canadian Tire selling wrenches and car parts. It may hurt the big labs who like to gouge and overcharge...but, I think that they are already seeing the effects of a more competitive market.

And, as has mentioned more than once on this forum, the tools are just a small part in getting the data back.

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 Post subject: Re: are some vendors hurting the DR Community???
PostPosted: April 3rd, 2009, 14:34 
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And, as has mentioned more than once on this forum, the tools are just a small part in getting the data back

Yes, that is true, but how will the end user know, how to differentiate between someone who actually is capable and someone who just has the tools, but not the know how? Sure, your repution will eventually catch up with you, if you are not skilled and capable. I am seeing a trend in the industry similar to the IT industry, where a skilled Admin used to be highly respected and desired. Know every Dick and Jane has their MCSE, CCNA, etc...
But that does not mean that they are actually qualified to perform the work!
Also, everything is getting more and more simplistic, I remember when You actually still required some skills to properly setup and configure a Windows or Linux Server. Now everything for the most part has become automated, and a 12 year old can setup a server.
And of course information which once was difficult to obtain is all over the internet now. Not saying that I have not benefited from the information age, or that I don't appreciate a less expensive product :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: are some vendors hurting the DR Community???
PostPosted: April 3rd, 2009, 18:48 
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Hi,

I think the comercial version off the DR products wants that to happen, and will say that press the button and the disk is recovery... off course is not like that, will have to fail a lot to sucess one.

But i houpe not all the IT firms can see this an opturnity, because iff that happen the DR bussines will be complet bad.

If a person goes to a DR with a good name and they can not make the disk, them take it to other DR Company and they can research and make the disk, that´s a different here , researching, i dont say that the "good name" DR company do not have good DR guys there, off course they have, but one good guy can not do all the work.

As usualy will be always good DR people and bad DR people with out the proper knowledge, can sometimes make some disk and others no.

I see in the market 3 DR tools who wants to help the DR company make they job esialy.

Let´s wait and see what the future can bring to DR.
(i houpe a lot off disk)

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 Post subject: Re: are some vendors hurting the DR Community???
PostPosted: April 3rd, 2009, 20:19 
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Vendors, especially buggy SD products are not going to hurt data recovery. The people who talk about secrets on open forums will hurt the data recovery business in the long run.

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 Post subject: Re: are some vendors hurting the DR Community???
PostPosted: April 12th, 2009, 18:14 
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Hi,
No tool can do any wonder /miracle at this data recovery world and those tools are only the medium to do sussesful data recovery ,any thing we use i.e screw driver set ,soldering iron with diffrent bits ,isopophyl alcohol and lot of these type of small and diffrent hardware gadgets including firmware tools /diffrent logical data recovery softwares and the best thing is for us is a lot of experience and any data recovery company is in the winning position as they are having lot of experience with multiple problems including diffrent hard drives and regarding the automation ("that press the button and the disk is recover..). this will take another three years to rectify this problem through robotics /lot of intrumentation only and in between there will be lot of changes i.e,Holographic Hard drive/3D holographic Hard Drive Technology or no requirement of HDD Data Recovery or this technology will reduce the data recovery things upto 98% but absolutly there is a 2%room and this is more than sufficient to any company who is having lot of experience to do data recovery at past, to owner the great deals and having lot of experience,so we have to work with technology and dont fear whats the thing are develop in future.The manufacturer of this storage technology are much adwance where we are ...so we we have to work with technology as we are also the part of the industry..
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 Post subject: Re: are some vendors hurting the DR Community???
PostPosted: April 17th, 2009, 7:49 
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Vendors, especially buggy SD products are not going to hurt data recovery. The people who talk about secrets on open forums will hurt the data recovery business in the long run.


But how should professionals share their experience? Of course, we do not say here all the secrets, but there are some things which many dr specialists will know even if we do not write it here. It will just take more time.

I do not think data recovery will not bring money in future, many new drives appear and true professionals to recover them will always be demanded.

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 Post subject: Re: are some vendors hurting the DR Community???
PostPosted: April 17th, 2009, 15:38 
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Hi ,
But all these tools cant done any thing without any appropriate experience i.e if any body dont know ,how can deffrenciate between logical /physical/firmware recovery the hdd will be destroy and please thease are only tools ,not alike any experieced person ,so think beyond these tools and after that you can achieve the appropriate data recovery things/world and think more than that ,these tools are only a ladder to achieve more intresting and fruitful thing of some more intrested world beyond this..
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