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narro
 Post subject: Guzik
PostPosted: August 13th, 2009, 11:26 
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Does anyone have one of these ?

http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/08-12-2009/0005076750&EDATE


http://www.guzik.com/product_detail_DTR3000.asp

Can it really recover data from major hard drives manufactures ?
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CK
 Post subject: Re: Guzik
PostPosted: August 16th, 2009, 14:06 
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Theoretically, yes. But for practical, commercial applications - NO.

I've seen one in a lab but have not yet seen real life results.

To put it simply, you can read the low level data, but trying reconstruct it into meaningful data is the problem.

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lcoughey
 Post subject: Re: Guzik
PostPosted: August 17th, 2009, 14:57 
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What is the difference between this and "Signal Trace" that ActionFront promoted? I'd be needing to see a lot more unrecoverable projects before I'd spend more than $500,000 on this unit.

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Doomer
 Post subject: Re: Guzik
PostPosted: August 17th, 2009, 15:51 
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lcoughey wrote:
What is the difference between this and "Signal Trace" that ActionFront promoted?

The difference is the Signal Trace is able to recover real data from some drives

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-BR-
 Post subject: Re: Guzik
PostPosted: August 18th, 2009, 4:09 
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lcoughey wrote:
What is the difference between this and "Signal Trace" that ActionFront promoted? I'd be needing to see a lot more unrecoverable projects before I'd spend more than $500,000 on this unit.

The difference is that Guzik's seems to be a real hardware tool, while Actionfront's was fakeware (*)
(*) also known as vaporware, marketing promotional tool, or in simpler words ... just a big lie 8)

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HDD Spaz
 Post subject: Re: Guzik
PostPosted: August 18th, 2009, 7:12 
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I'd like to see some proof.

Actionfront woudn't be the first to create a fictional tool to get extra good press. I'm sure IBAS claimed to have such a device too. Don't forget Data Clinic with their EMAK, (then they started to sell Salvation Data products???) and Retro Data with their 20 ton P.E.T.S (Platter swap tool)

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Doomer
 Post subject: Re: Guzik
PostPosted: August 18th, 2009, 13:06 
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the SignalTrace is real thing
I saw it myself and I saw it recovers data

There is no magic just pure science and lots of work

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lcoughey
 Post subject: Re: Guzik
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I'm curious to know the value of the data on the drives that would make systems like Guzik and Signal Trace a viable option.

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HDD Spaz
 Post subject: Re: Guzik
PostPosted: August 18th, 2009, 14:21 
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was it just one model of western digital or several?
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Doomer
 Post subject: Re: Guzik
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HDD Spaz wrote:
was it just one model of western digital or several?

several WDs

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guru
 Post subject: Re: Guzik
PostPosted: August 20th, 2009, 6:38 
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probably all from the Enterprise range :O) . Signal Trace was good and they made their money back selling it to US gov.. Also Nick made money in the end by selling AF to Seagate./

I personaly think money was made off the back and brains of Russian nationals.

AF was miles behind in 2001/2002 Sadly some really clever guys ended up in the US

The best man-brain for reverse HDD firmware luckily still lives in Moscow so I don't care much :mrgreen: and he is the real GURU

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Doomer
 Post subject: Re: Guzik
PostPosted: August 20th, 2009, 10:58 
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guru, what guy are you talking about?

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