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 Post subject: Re: HP HD (WD disk with SATA-USB adapter) -remove virtual CD-ROM
PostPosted: February 8th, 2011, 13:08 
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Did you try this software from the utilities page like I suggested?

http://download.wdc.com/smartware/WDSma ... .0.8.3.zip


yes, it does not recognize the adapter(with the hard disk)

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PostPosted: February 8th, 2011, 14:20 
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Steve wrote:
gaucho wrote:
ok, i will try to disconnect the clock pin, but i found this article
www . dedoimedo . com / computers / passport-vcd . html
that points to this HP tool
files . extremeoverclocking . com / file . php ? f=197

What do you think if i try to use this tool?
Thank you.
Gaucho.

Follow the directions that you found there . don't worry about
updating firmware, and don't worry about the usb adapter.
The usb adapter works with any sata 2-1/2 drive (even non wd)
And the drive is a standard sata drive that happens to have a
hidden partition.

And Frank, sometimes you make things appear harder than they are.

Is Steve some kind of BOT ?
which link i have to follow to update firmwarE? my product is not WD, it's HP.

I removed one more time the disk from the case and directly connected to SATA bus of PC.
I can see with GPARTED an unallocated disk with size 298,09GB
i can format it using NTFS.
No virtual disk visibile.

When i connect the disk to the adapter and the adapter to the PC via USB, i find a V-CD with the 2 files in it (total size of CD 905216 Byte, with 567296 Byte of files) and a unallocated disk with size 297,43GB
i can format it using NTFS, obtaining a disk of 297,43GB (note that going in disk properties i found a size of 319.362.912.256 Bytes)

I understand that adapter encripts partitions (Hard disk partition and V-CD partition)

Note: I always do a fast format, not the slow one.

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 Post subject: Re: HP HD (WD disk with SATA-USB adapter) -remove virtual CD-ROM
PostPosted: February 8th, 2011, 14:39 
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Your product might be in a HP case , but it is a WD drive and usb
adapter.
Connect the drive back up to the usb adapter, run the software at
files . extremeoverclocking . com / file . php ? f=197
Follow the directions at http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/passport-vcd.html
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 Post subject: Re: HP HD (WD disk with SATA-USB adapter) -remove virtual CD-ROM
PostPosted: February 8th, 2011, 15:52 
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Steve wrote:
Follow the directions that you found there . don't worry about
updating firmware, and don't worry about the usb adapter.
The usb adapter works with any sata 2-1/2 drive (even non wd)
And the drive is a standard sata drive that happens to have a
hidden partition.

And Frank, sometimes you make things appear harder than they are.

Steve, things are harder than you think.

I don't believe HP's tool can write to the VCD. In fact the OP in your link appears to have fooled himself by first hiding the VCD using WD's tool. After reformatting, he then claims that an increase in the reported size of the user partition is evidence that the VCD's data area has been reclaimed. In fact prior to the reformat, Windows shows a WD SmartWare volume of size 615 MB. Afterwards he claims that an increase in the user area from 595.51GB to 595.52GB is evidence that the VCD is gone. Clearly his arithmetic is poor.

595.52GB - 595.51GB = 0.01GB = 10MB

So where are the other 605 MB?

In Gaucho's case the label on his drive shows a capacity of 625142448 LBAs. However, after connecting the drive directly via SATA, the OS reports a capacity of 319362912256 bytes.

The difference, in sectors, is ...

625142448 - (319362912256 / 512) = 1386760

... which is close to the figure stated by DR-Kiev.

The difference, in bytes, is 710 MB.

I wonder whether the VCD partition is actually visible to disc utilities, or if it is hidden in a HPA. To this end, it would be interesting to see how many LBAs are reported by the software.

AIUI, Gaucho's problem is that the HP drive enumerates as a multifunction device, first as a VCD, and then as a USB mass storage device. Windows can handle this, but his TV media player cannot. To prevent the drive from identifying as a VCD, the VCD needs to be disabled in the bridge chip's firmware. This is apparently how WD's firmware updates tackle the issue.

BTW, I believe you can hide the VCD in Windows merely by disabling the VCD device in Device Manager.

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PostPosted: February 8th, 2011, 16:12 
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fzabkar wrote:
AIUI, Gaucho's problem is that the HP drive enumerates as a multifunction device, first as a VCD, and then as a USB mass storage device. Windows can handle this, but his TV media player cannot. To prevent the drive from identifying as a VCD, the VCD needs to be disabled in the bridge chip's firmware. This is apparently how WD's firmware updates tackle the issue.

BTW, I believe you can hide the VCD in Windows merely by disabling the VCD device in Device Manager.


Everything I have seen on the WD site, actually reinstalls the VCD
manager.
I have one of these wd usb/sata adapters in my hand, and it will
properly read a non vcd'd drive without problem, So all that is
needed is to remove the hidden partition from the drive.
If the Hp tool doesn't work, we can dig deeper, but there is nothing
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Like i said before , there is in the end of physical drive locate HFS boot loader partition, wich contains VCD. It is not encrypted. Via USB you couldn't see that sectors. Its locked.

Inic1607E was programmed for using this "loader" for mount and decrypting main partition.

BTW. Open physical drive with WinHex jump on to that sectors in the end and you will see all you need.

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PostPosted: February 8th, 2011, 17:49 
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Steve wrote:
Your product might be in a HP case , but it is a WD drive and usb
adapter.
Connect the drive back up to the usb adapter, run the software at
files . extremeoverclocking . com / file . php ? f=197
Follow the directions at http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/passport-vcd.html
And the hidden vcd will be gone.

@steve: may be u jumped some posts: I tried thet tool without success.
the tool formats the disk but the cd is always there.

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PostPosted: February 8th, 2011, 18:01 
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DR-Kiev wrote:
Like i said before , there is in the end of physical drive locate HFS boot loader partition, wich contains VCD. It is not encrypted. Via USB you couldn't see that sectors. Its locked.

Inic1607E was programmed for using this "loader" for mount and decrypting main partition.

BTW. Open physical drive with WinHex jump on to that sectors in the end and you will see all you need.

i connected the disk directy to a sata bus, and i used gparted live to watch disk partitions.
the disk has no partition.

the same disk used with the SATA-USB adapter, has a V-CD and a NTFS partition.

how you explain this?
i think that things are different than what you wrote.
i think that initio chip in the adapter, encripts partition, and doesn't allow you clear see the partition when the disk is directly connected to PC.

INITIO doesn't answer my questions, resellers do the same..
i will try to disconnect flash data pin..

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PostPosted: February 8th, 2011, 18:16 
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gaucho wrote:
i connected the disk directy to a sata bus, and i used gparted live to watch disk partitions.
the disk has no partition.

gparted is seeing an encrypted MBR. That's why it is telling you that there is nothing there.

Use a disc editor such as WinHex or HxD to view the first two sectors.

HxD - Freeware Hex Editor and Disk Editor:
http://mh-nexus.de/en/hxd/

I believe LBA 1 should have a repeating pattern of 16-bytes (128 bits). These will be encrypted zeros.

Use HxD to examine the end of the physical drive (not logical drive). Note the number of the last sector. That should tell you the visible capacity of the physical drive.

gaucho wrote:
the same disk used with the SATA-USB adapter, has a V-CD and a NTFS partition.

Use HxD to view the same sectors. This time you will see an unencrypted HD partition, but not the VCD.

Alternatively, you could Microsoft's Sector Inspector:
http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/SecInspect.zip

Extract the above archive to the one folder and execute the SIrun.bat file. The procedure will generate a report file named SIout.txt.

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 Post subject: Re: HP HD (WD disk with SATA-USB adapter) -remove virtual CD-ROM
PostPosted: February 9th, 2011, 12:46 
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fzabkar wrote:
gaucho wrote:
i connected the disk directy to a sata bus, and i used gparted live to watch disk partitions.
the disk has no partition.

gparted is seeing an encrypted MBR. That's why it is telling you that there is nothing there.

Use a disc editor such as WinHex or HxD to view the first two sectors.

HxD - Freeware Hex Editor and Disk Editor:
mh-nexus . de / en / hxd /

I believe LBA 1 should have a repeating pattern of 16-bytes (128 bits). These will be encrypted zeros.

Use HxD to examine the end of the physical drive (not logical drive). Note the number of the last sector. That should tell you the visible capacity of the physical drive.

gaucho wrote:
the same disk used with the SATA-USB adapter, has a V-CD and a NTFS partition.

Use HxD to view the same sectors. This time you will see an unencrypted HD partition, but not the VCD.

Alternatively, you could Microsoft's Sector Inspector:
www . users . on . net / ~fzabkar / SecInspect.zip

Extract the above archive to the one folder and execute the SIrun.bat file. The procedure will generate a report file named SIout.txt.


here what i did:
-i realized a bootable bartPe with HxD (portable) on it (just because i don't want to install anything on this pc)

-i connected the disk with the adapter and saved the sector 0 (annexed file sector0withAdapter), sector 1 (annexed file sector1withAdapter) and the last sector (sector 623769599) (annexed file sector623769599withAdapter)

-i connected the disk without adapter and saved the sector 0 (annexed file sector0withoutAdapter), sector 1 (annexed file sector1withoutAdapter) and the last sector (sector 625142447) (annexed file sector625142447withoutAdapter)

some observations:
1)
sector one with adapter, is composed by repeating sequenze ( this is the sequence: 96 6C F5 0F 30 E9 74 2D 2F 43 EF BE 2C F2 18 92 )

sector one with hard disk directly connected to PC is composed by zeros.

2)
sector zero is in clear if readed with the adapter.
sector zero is cyphered if readed directly on the hard disk.

3)
with adapter the size of the hard disk reduces by 1372848 bytes (that is near to the size of the V-CD)

what can i do now?
did you have more deductions?


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now that i know where the 2 partitions are, could i invert the partition order?
i mean: how could i let my TV media player see the 319GB partition as the first detected one?

other solutions?

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PostPosted: February 9th, 2011, 23:30 
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The first anomaly I'd like to clear up in my mind is in regard to the slight differences in the user area before and after formatting.

Your hex dump of sector623769599withAdapter is of the last sector of the physical drive that is visible via the bridge. It shows a backup copy of an NTFS boot sector which belongs to a partition beginning at sector 63 (= 0x3F) and whose size is 623769537 (= 0x252DF7C0 + 1) sectors. This is consistent with a user area of 623769600 sectors, as per the drive's original format.

Your hex dump of sector0withAdapter is the result of the latest reformat. It shows a partition table with a single NTFS partition beginning at sector 63 and whose size is 623755692 (= 0x252DC1AC) sectors. Therefore the total user area now appears to be 623755755 sectors. This is 13845 sectors less than the previous figure. It also corresponds to about 7.1 MB of lost disc space.

This difference can be accounted for if we assume that your formatting utility ends a partition on a cylinder boundary. A logical track has 63 logical sectors, and a logical cylinder has 255 logical tracks or heads. Dividing the user capacity by 63 x 255 should give us an integral number of cylinders, ie ...

623755755 / (255 x 63) = 38827

Therefore, it would appear that the discrepancy in the formatted capacity of 7.1MB is due solely to the formatting methodology, and corresponds to the size of the last partial cylinder. This also accounts for the 0.01GB difference observed by the blogger at Steve's URL.

As for the question of whether you could force your TV media player to see the USB mass storage device before the VCD device, I don't believe this would be possible. Dr-Kiev cautions you not to touch the VCD data area, as this is necessary for the INIC-1607E's encryption function. Having said that, I don't understand why your VCD now has a capacity of only 1MB, nor do I understand why your hardware encryption is still functional, if after reformatting in SATA mode, you have overwritten the VCD data area. :?

If OTOH you have not touched the VCD area, and if you wish to observe how the device behaves in the absence of the VCD data, then you could clone those sectors (623769600 - 625142447) to a backup drive (or CD) before zeroing them, or you could try substituting a regular SATA drive that has been zero-filled.

I believe your only plausible solution is to force one of WD's utilities to update the firmware of the Initio bridge. Perhaps you could use Microsoft's UVCView to see how your HP device identifies itself, compare that to a My Book or Passport drive, and then edit an appropriate file in the update package (but not the firmware image itself).

BTW, if you don't need hardware encryption, then you could buy a third party enclosure.

References:

UVCView:
http://www.users.on. net/~fzabkar/USB_IDs/UVCView.x86.exe

The Windows 2000/XP MBR:
http://mirror.href.com/thestarman/asm/mbr/Win2kmbr.htm

The NTFS Boot Record: Boot Sector:
http://mirror.href.com/thestarman/asm/mbr/NTFSBR.htm

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why can't I edit my previous posts!????
i wrote wrong sentence:

i wrote:
gaucho wrote:
3)
with adapter the size of the hard disk reduces by 1372848 bytes (that is near to the size of the
V-CD)

I was in error, because that difference is in sectors, not in bytes.
infact 1372848 (SECTORS) * 512= 702898176 (Bytes)

i copied hard disk sectors from sector 623769600 to sector 625142447
In these sectors i found the files contained in the CD-ROM (not encrypted!!): HPLauncher.exe and
Autorun.inf
I even converted these sectors to string, and i found some readable strings:
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Cp1252
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2010021122420400 2020020922420400 2010021122420400  KATHLEEN MUSITELLI, WESTERN DIGITAL (5)
Cp1252
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 Post subject: Re: HP HD (WD disk with SATA-USB adapter) -remove virtual CD-ROM
PostPosted: February 10th, 2011, 13:28 
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removing from strings of my previous post the strings relative to the files (the files are the same visible inside virtual cd-rom when i use the usb adapter), the only interesting strings are at beginning of this hard disk area:

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ER   æ PM       CDEveryWhere 2.0 Part. Map  Apple_partition_map    2010021122420400
2010021122420400 2020020922420400 2010021122420400  KATHLEEN MUSITELLI, WESTERN DIGITAL (5)
Cp1252
CDEveryWhere 2.0, Build 67CD001 CDEVERYWHEREHPLAUNCHER  ºº     

  "     n *      WESTERN DIGITAL KATHLEEN MUSITELLI 2010021122420400
2010021122420400 2020020922420400 2010021122420400  KATHLEEN MUSITELLI, WESTERN DIGITAL (5)
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  "     n *       W E S T E R N   D I G I T A L   K A T H L E E N   M U S I T E L L
I   2010021122420400 2010021122420400 2020020922420400 2010021122420400  KATHLEEN MUSITELLI,
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n * n * CE  í  íf     n *     RRPX$ÿAAÿ  TFn * n * n *
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T‡RRIP_1991ATHE ROCK RIDGE INTERCHANGE PROTOCOL PROVIDES SUPPORT FOR POSIX FILE SYSTEM
SEMANTICSPLEASE CONTACT DISC PUBLISHER FOR SPECIFICATION SOURCE.  SEE PUBLISHER IDENTIFIER IN
PRIMARY VOLUME DESCRIPTOR FOR CONTACT INFORMATION.


and at the end:
Code:
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WDH FPÿ ëRNTFS  ø? ÿ€ € ÿßB% ÿ-Tö  É‘+jŠú3ÀŽÐ¼ |ûhÀhf ˈ f> NTFSu´A»ªUÍr
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A disk read error occurred
BOOTMGR is missing
BOOTMGR is compressed
Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart
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now i'll try to zeroize unneded sectors (i have a backup of last 700MB sectors)

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 Post subject: Re: HP HD (WD disk with SATA-USB adapter) -remove virtual CD-ROM
PostPosted: February 10th, 2011, 14:45 
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In annexed you find sectors 623769600-623769601-623769602.
Do you understand anything?
i zeroized sectors from 623769601 to at least sector 623772531 and now reconnecting the USB adapter i can see the hard disk normally working (i can read and write) and a V-CD without name, with 0Bytes size and if i try to open it, it appears broken (error message on windows)


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It appears that the VCD image is a cross-platform ISO built with CDEveryWhere:
http://www.cdeverywhere.com/features.shtml

"Create Hybrid CD image. Joliet (Win) / HFS (Mac) / RockRidge (Unix/Linux) / ISO9660 (Industry Standard Format)."

"CDEveryWhere supports all 4 file systems - so your CD data can be shared seamlessly across platforms."

BTW, Dr-Kiev is saying that, after deleting the VCD image, you will have lost the hardware encryption functionality of the Initio bridge. You could verify this by formatting your drive via the bridge, and then viewing it via SATA.

Of course none of this helps you tackle your initial problem. It appears that the VCD can only be disabled by updating the firmware in the bridge's flash memory.

You could try lifting the clock pin, but I suspect that the resultant "default Initio controller" won't provide you with a USB mass storage device.

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It may be interesting to see how the bridge board behaves on its own, ie with the drive disconnected. Is it detected as a "default Initio controller"? Does the VCD still appear, albeit with zero capacity?

In Linux you can use LSUSB or USBVIEW to display information about the connected USB devices.

http://linux.about.com/cs/linux101/g/usbview.htm
http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl8_lsusb.htm

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fzabkar wrote:
It may be interesting to see how the bridge board behaves on its own, ie with the drive disconnected. Is it detected as a "default Initio controller"? Does the VCD still appear, albeit with zero capacity?

In Linux you can use LSUSB or USBVIEW to display information about the connected USB devices.

http://linux.about.com/cs/linux101/g/usbview.htm
http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl8_lsusb.htm

usbview (for windows) detects the usb adapter with the hard disk as shown:
Code:
Device Descriptor:
bcdUSB:             0x0200
bDeviceClass:         0x00
bDeviceSubClass:      0x00
bDeviceProtocol:      0x00
bMaxPacketSize0:      0x40 (64)
idVendor:           0x03F0 (Hewlett Packard)
idProduct:          0x4507
bcdDevice:          0x2002
iManufacturer:        0x01
0x0409: "HP"
iProduct:             0x02
0x0409: "External HDD"
iSerialNumber:        0x03
0x0409: "575833314138303938373434"
bNumConfigurations:   0x01

ConnectionStatus: DeviceConnected
Current Config Value: 0x01
Device Bus Speed:     High
Device Address:       0x02
Open Pipes:              2

Endpoint Descriptor:
bEndpointAddress:     0x81  IN
Transfer Type:        Bulk
wMaxPacketSize:     0x0200 (512)
bInterval:            0x00

Endpoint Descriptor:
bEndpointAddress:     0x02  OUT
Transfer Type:        Bulk
wMaxPacketSize:     0x0200 (512)
bInterval:            0x00

Configuration Descriptor:
wTotalLength:       0x0020
bNumInterfaces:       0x01
bConfigurationValue:  0x01
iConfiguration:       0x00
bmAttributes:         0x80 (Bus Powered )
MaxPower:             0xFA (500 Ma)

Interface Descriptor:
bInterfaceNumber:     0x00
bAlternateSetting:    0x00
bNumEndpoints:        0x02
bInterfaceClass:      0x08
bInterfaceSubClass:   0x06
bInterfaceProtocol:   0x50
iInterface:           0x00

Endpoint Descriptor:
bEndpointAddress:     0x81  IN
Transfer Type:        Bulk
wMaxPacketSize:     0x0200 (512)
bInterval:            0x00

Endpoint Descriptor:
bEndpointAddress:     0x02  OUT
Transfer Type:        Bulk
wMaxPacketSize:     0x0200 (512)
bInterval:            0x00


if i connect the adapter without the hard disk, usbview can't see any usb device.

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ok, now, beginning from sector 623769600 till the end (sector 625142447) the sectors are all zeroized, apart of these 2 sectors: 625137672 and 625141759 (see annexed files)

the disk still works well (i can read,write and even format)

now i'll try to zeroize these 2 sectors (one at time)

question: one sector begins with WD, the other one with NTFS. what does it means? why it is placed at the end of the hard disk?


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question: one sector begins with WD, the other one with NTFS. what does it means? why it is placed at the end of the hard disk?


Boot sector's copy locate always in the end of partition (for NTFS )

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