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 Post subject: ActionFront AKA Seagate Recovery Signal Trace
PostPosted: October 22nd, 2007, 5:50 
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Hi All,

It's been quiet from AF/STX for sometime. Is there anything new? Are they able to recover data from anything other than an OLD WD SCSI drive? :D :idea:

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 Post subject: Re: ActionFront AKA Seagate Recovery Signal Trace
PostPosted: October 25th, 2007, 14:39 
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Nothing?

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 Post subject: Re: ActionFront AKA Seagate Recovery Signal Trace
PostPosted: October 30th, 2007, 14:16 
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Dmitriy should know better but as far as I know they can read modern WD drives.
But of couse they mostly keep it for marketing puposes ;)


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 Post subject: Re: ActionFront AKA Seagate Recovery Signal Trace
PostPosted: October 31st, 2007, 9:13 
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That is correct, they can read WD hard drives. It's been done a year ago. I am not sure what's going on on that project now since I left AF/SDR, but I would assume that the development slowed down a little bit...

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 Post subject: Re: ActionFront AKA Seagate Recovery Signal Trace
PostPosted: November 23rd, 2007, 14:30 
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the development slowed down, since u left :)

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 Post subject: Re: ActionFront AKA Seagate Recovery Signal Trace
PostPosted: November 26th, 2007, 19:34 
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Just to clarify, I wasn't involved too much in the SignalTrace project, so my leaving per se shouldn't slow it down. There were other factors, but I am not sure if I can tell more :)

If there is anyone from SDR (I know for sure that we have people from SDR reading this forum), maybe they will shed some light on this.

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 Post subject: Re: ActionFront AKA Seagate Recovery Signal Trace
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development probably slowed down because they couldn't do it !!! :D

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 Post subject: Re: ActionFront AKA Seagate Recovery Signal Trace
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According to their website, they can use it with any drive.

http://services.seagate.com/signal_trace.aspx


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 Post subject: Re: ActionFront AKA Seagate Recovery Signal Trace
PostPosted: May 7th, 2008, 15:33 
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carlos wrote:
According to their website, they can use it with any drive.

http://services.seagate.com/signal_trace.aspx


From the article referenced:

"SignalTrace™ is the result of many years of research and a substantial investment of Seagate resources."

Perhaps Seagate should be considering more substantial investment into the development and manufacture of RELIABLE hard drives, rather than the rubbish they are currently producing.

I do not trust any hard drive manufacturer that has shares in, or owns, a data recovery business.


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 Post subject: Re: ActionFront AKA Seagate Recovery Signal Trace
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Odiferous wrote:
carlos wrote:
I do not trust any hard drive manufacturer that has shares in, or owns, a data recovery business.

Well said, i'm sure you are not alone in thinking of this big scam. Make many useless unreliable drives. For bigger return of increased revenue, with data recovery.


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 Post subject: Re: ActionFront AKA Seagate Recovery Signal Trace
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who gives a c*ap. Im starting a Chinese Take Away.... There less of them than there are data recovery companies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: ActionFront AKA Seagate Recovery Signal Trace
PostPosted: July 11th, 2008, 22:43 
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Do they ever actually use that technology to recover data? Or is it stuck in a closet somewhere?


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 Post subject: Re: ActionFront AKA Seagate Recovery Signal Trace
PostPosted: July 13th, 2008, 2:21 
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the only company who can pay for it is the usa govement or usa army.

oh yeah and allso bill gates too

but like i say if someone total smashes the hard drive up there never going
to be any information recoveredable :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: ActionFront AKA Seagate Recovery Signal Trace
PostPosted: July 24th, 2008, 5:02 
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I don't think the US has any money anymore. Their bank rolled by China... funny but true....

Maybe we will see the white house on ebay some time soon.. LMAO



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the only company who can pay for it is the usa govement or usa army.

oh yeah and allso bill gates too

but like i say if someone total smashes the hard drive up there never going
to be any information recoveredable :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: ActionFront AKA Seagate Recovery Signal Trace
PostPosted: July 24th, 2008, 19:39 
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Reading the platters directly? Well, it is not out because it is not possible in any reasonable time periods. I've heard of a project just like this one... I am not sure if it was this one or not, but they got to the point where they could do this for one family (or one model, I don't remember) of WD drives, but it was so horribly slow that it was practically useless...


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 Post subject: Re: ActionFront AKA Seagate Recovery Signal Trace
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Jinx wrote:
I am not sure if it was this one or not, but they got to the point where they could do this for one family (or one model, I don't remember) of WD drives, but it was so horribly slow that it was practically useless...

rumours, rumours :)
SignalTrace can recover data from some drives and it is not "horribly slow" and apparently not usless. Real cases with real drives with real data were recovered with SignalTrace

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 Post subject: Re: ActionFront AKA Seagate Recovery Signal Trace
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I think this Signal Trace thing is a big fat lie. Sorry!
Having said that, I was wondering the other day if one with a powerfull microscope could scan the platters into a file (or several) and then mount these physical images (literally) and some kind of modified OCR techology (to recognize the magnetic blurr or something) to convert them into data...with the necessary adjustments (considering the empty spaces of the lists, the servo tracks or else).
It may sound crazy and impossible, I know. But I was just trying to find an intellectual way to bypass all the wizardry of the SA modules and their checksums, servo calibration, X-Y-Z-list and translator. Maybe optical recognition is the solution in the not so near future.


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 Post subject: Re: ActionFront AKA Seagate Recovery Signal Trace
PostPosted: July 25th, 2012, 13:13 
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Signaltrace does exist, i know one of the guys who made it.

On the other hand, optical way is at least as hard (and expensive) as a signaltrace thing can be. Just a little bit more :)
Translator is one thing (the easier one to be precise) , data decoding is what you would need to mess with...

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 Post subject: Re: ActionFront AKA Seagate Recovery Signal Trace
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rommano wrote:
I think this Signal Trace thing is a big fat lie. Sorry!
Having said that, I was wondering the other day if one with a powerfull microscope could scan the platters into a file (or several) and then mount these physical images (literally) and some kind of modified OCR techology (to recognize the magnetic blurr or something) to convert them into data...with the necessary adjustments (considering the empty spaces of the lists, the servo tracks or else).
It may sound crazy and impossible, I know. But I was just trying to find an intellectual way to bypass all the wizardry of the SA modules and their checksums, servo calibration, X-Y-Z-list and translator. Maybe optical recognition is the solution in the not so near future.

we will all buy Your tool :)

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 Post subject: Re: ActionFront AKA Seagate Recovery Signal Trace
PostPosted: October 31st, 2012, 13:19 
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Signal Trace does definitely exist. It's not a lie, and it was already discussed and proved to some members of this community.
From other side, the cost of adding the new drive models to it is more than the revenue generated, so it's simply has no business sense with the current DR marked prices.

As of optical solution - it's WAY more complicated and slower, trust me.


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