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 Post subject: URGENT: DR Pro Tools to sell
PostPosted: July 6th, 2013, 8:58 
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Hi All,

I'm quitting my DR bussiness as I moved to another IT sector.
I've got following equipment in a PERFECT condition to sell:

1 x PC-3000 UDMA + DE - (used often, works perfectly, like NEW!)
1 x PC-3000 SCSI + DE - (BRAND NEW)
1 x PC-3000 Flash - (BRAND NEW)
1 x PC-3000 Portable - (used several times like NEW!)
1 x HD HPE Pro Tool by Salvation Data - (used several times like NEW!)
1 x Stereoscopic Microscope with LEDs, perfect for electronics.
1 x Professional Multimeter
1 x Aoyue 2702A+ All in one Digital Hot Air Rework Station
1 x Vertical Laminar Flow Cabinet with HEPA filter - 42h working hours - (like NEW!)

I'm willing to sell it all together, for those who are interested in running business it's a perfect set of pro tools.

Important notes:
- Equipment is in perfect condition (mostly new) and it is ORIGINAL !!! (no fakes from China or similar).
- I can send you photos of the equipment for those who are really interested to buy it.
- Due to security reasons I don't want to share my location in public, can just say it's Europe.
- For more info please contact me via email: prometsat@gmail.com - serious buyers only, thx in advance !

Cheers!


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 Post subject: Re: URGENT: DR Pro Tools to sell
PostPosted: July 8th, 2013, 3:26 
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Sorry, but I think you're not allowed to sell your ACE equipment. Have you asked them?

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 Post subject: Re: URGENT: DR Pro Tools to sell
PostPosted: July 11th, 2013, 11:04 
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You have photos of equipment ?
When does TS for PC3000 equipment run out ?

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 Post subject: Re: URGENT: DR Pro Tools to sell
PostPosted: July 11th, 2013, 11:14 
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scratchy wrote:
TS for PC3000 equipment run out ?

Mhh, that in itself is valuable.

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 Post subject: Re: URGENT: DR Pro Tools to sell
PostPosted: July 11th, 2013, 15:38 
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If the ace tools were transferrable then I would buy them, but sadly I believe they are worthless as you would not able to activate them :-(

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 Post subject: Re: URGENT: DR Pro Tools to sell
PostPosted: July 11th, 2013, 16:03 
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What happens if you were to buy the business who owns the tools, close the location and move all the operations to your location?

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 Post subject: Re: URGENT: DR Pro Tools to sell
PostPosted: July 11th, 2013, 16:36 
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lcoughey wrote:
What happens if you were to buy the business who owns the tools, close the location and move all the operations to your location?


I don't know about you guys.....but all my contracts are in my personal name, even though the tools were bought by the company.....as director of my company, the contracts are actually with me..... so even if I sell my business (which I'm not) the tools are not transferable... For this very reason I believe ACE do not make out contracts to a Company alone, but to a named representative (CEO / Director / President) of that company... I'd be interested to hear if your contracts are made out that way....

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 Post subject: Re: URGENT: DR Pro Tools to sell
PostPosted: July 11th, 2013, 16:48 
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They are. It must be in a person's name as far as I know as well.

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 Post subject: Re: URGENT: DR Pro Tools to sell
PostPosted: July 11th, 2013, 18:52 
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That cant be legal? If its a limited company, even if you are a director you are just really an employee. I would love to hear some confirmation on this.


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 Post subject: Re: URGENT: DR Pro Tools to sell
PostPosted: July 11th, 2013, 19:00 
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that would mean that each and every one of us who has purchased something from them and reclaimed the vat, put it through company books etc has committed one more more offenses....


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 Post subject: Re: URGENT: DR Pro Tools to sell
PostPosted: July 12th, 2013, 2:39 
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If you read the contracts you'll find out that ACE does NOT sell you the tools. They just allow you to use them, for a fee.

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 Post subject: Re: URGENT: DR Pro Tools to sell
PostPosted: July 12th, 2013, 2:44 
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northwind wrote:
If you read the contracts you'll find out that ACE does NOT sell you the tools. They just allow you to use them, for a fee.



That's pretty much it in a Nutshell...... (thanks Dimitris... :D )

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 Post subject: Re: URGENT: DR Pro Tools to sell
PostPosted: July 12th, 2013, 5:23 
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I don't understand why they think it is better to have their tools sitting in a cupboard when the owner decides to not do DR anymore - with no possibility of any more revenue from that client, than to allow someone else to use them and maybe upgrade or buy more because they used it and liked it - thus making more revenue.

What am I missing here?


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 Post subject: Re: URGENT: DR Pro Tools to sell
PostPosted: July 12th, 2013, 5:34 
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HaQue wrote:
I don't understand why they think it is better to have their tools sitting in a cupboard when the owner decides to not do DR anymore - with no possibility of any more revenue from that client, than to allow someone else to use them and maybe upgrade or buy more because they used it and liked it - thus making more revenue.

What am I missing here?



My contract states that the tools MUST be destroyed if we no longer use them...............

But if you think about it....there's a very obvious logic to this that benefits EVERYBODY that runs a serious DR business....... (and ACE as well)...

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 Post subject: Re: URGENT: DR Pro Tools to sell
PostPosted: July 12th, 2013, 7:43 
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Touchclarity wrote:
My contract states that the tools MUST be destroyed if we no longer use them...............

But if you think about it....there's a very obvious logic to this that benefits EVERYBODY that runs a serious DR business....... (and ACE as well)...


I can see ACE would make money by selling a new kit. I don't see how it benefits other DR Businesses as the count of competition DR businesses is the same, just a different name on the title.

A better idea for ACE would be to have it more obvious the tools are not yours, they are licenced and to be returned at the end of the contract. They have no proof of any destroying if, say you close your business, and any business ending their contract are more than likely less likely to destroy the tools. I would think I would find it hard to destroy a tool like that just because of a contract!

I guess I can't see the mindset of making something so customer unfriendly.

One possible thing I thought of is that maybe ACE want to vet each customer and choose carefully who they sell to, to stop a potential pirate of their tools getting them. This could be easier if customers were allowed to on-sell their tools without ACE having a say.

That said, they have the right to do as they like and we have the right to agree or choose other tools and/or a way around anything that is restricting us.. contractually proper or not.

The loser is the guy selling his business, as being able to sell the tools would be a huge plus for the sale.

That's the beauty of forums like this - We can all have a discussion and thrash out a topic, and ACE can get a great insight to how their customers think, and interact if they choose.


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 Post subject: Re: URGENT: DR Pro Tools to sell
PostPosted: July 12th, 2013, 9:39 
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I don`t think this USER AND WHATEVER he is selling is a REAL

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 Post subject: Re: URGENT: DR Pro Tools to sell
PostPosted: July 12th, 2013, 12:13 
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einstein9 wrote:
I don`t think this USER AND WHATEVER he is selling is a REAL


Is that because he said he has actually USED a SD tool? (sorry) but seriously or because he hasn't answered any posts...


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 Post subject: Re: URGENT: DR Pro Tools to sell
PostPosted: July 12th, 2013, 14:10 
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HaQue wrote:
einstein9 wrote:
I don`t think this USER AND WHATEVER he is selling is a REAL


Is that because he said he has actually USED a SD tool? (sorry) but seriously or because he hasn't answered any posts...


Coz, too much investments on those tools in addition he never responds

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 Post subject: Re: URGENT: DR Pro Tools to sell
PostPosted: July 13th, 2013, 0:13 
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He might have sold them already. He could be another user that joins, gets what he wants and is never seen (under that nick) again.

I have seen quite a few people, especially on the SD forum, asking for the extra forum access that say they have bought a huge suite of tools. I always wonder how they can outlay so much. I guess if you have a business plan and it is in DR then the good tools are a requirement, and if your credit is ok then not so hard to get bank loans, or maybe an existing IT business that is ok financially can outlay without it being a huge deal..


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 Post subject: Re: URGENT: DR Pro Tools to sell
PostPosted: July 13th, 2013, 1:57 
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In case ACE lab will find out about this, they can block these DR cards for future upgrades.
I'm talking about the case when he will sell his equipment along with the computers.

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