Unfortuntely as I can see most of HDD "Gurus" in this topic are full LAMMERS in the flash data recovery. I suppose that Einstein works in the SD over universal algorithm. I can't believe that it will be OWN researchings of SD and OWN developments...Does Anybody has PC3k UDMA and SD tools?
I can say without doubt - all of the products from SD unfortunately cloned from ACE tools. You can remember how chinese people cracked PC-3000 PCI and produced thousands of copies. I have one of this fake tools and it is bullshit. Also all who have SD and ACE tool are able to compare 7200.11 solution from ACE and from SD. There is big difference, because in PC3k udma (with newest update, seems to be 4.13) there is automatic mode of fixing problems, but using SD solution you have to fix problems using terminal commands. And one of this commands can DAMAGE user data. Just format it! I said about this bug to ACE guys, and I hope "clever chinese developers" knows how to fix it. He-he.
I will buy new SD solution because it is very interesting for me. I have about 10-15 cases with flash sticks and cards every week and my experience allows me to solve approximately 80% of all cases using PC3k Flash. This tool contain good algorithms. Also I heard about new update which coming soon and I hope it can increase my percent of success.

P.S. "Lammer test" to all: If you think flash memory sticks contain translator such as in HDD's, you're really lammer. Don't post anything more here please.

P.P.S. Laura I suggest you to learn some information about flash based devices and you can ask me give you some information about this area (PM me). I hope your developers are able to define 528 or 2112 page structure. (Of course if you know what I mean). Or it doesn't matter for your wondefull universal algorithm?

P.P.P.S. If anybody have doubt feel free to ask me.

Thanks to all who read my post.

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Creator,
Do you know that "flash sticks" have algorithms to equilize number of writes for each block/bank?
For example you have FAT32 on your flash and obviously FAT tables (which located in block/bank 0) get most of writing cycles. Flash controller has ability to logically replace block/bank 0 with the new one (copy all the data before) to equilize number of writes with unused blocks/banks
Also to increase speed flash controllers might use some kind of "RAID0" spreading of information between chips or banks

Process to put information from blocks/banks to linear LBA access area (including "destriping" and blocks reallocation) called translation, baby
PS:That's really lame of you to think it's not

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Just use correct flags and it will not happen

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Wow, I see you know about interleave operation? Cool!
Actually, for better understanding you may call it MIX
If you want I can teach you how to fix interleave mix.
But I suppose you're not lammer.
Then tell me your opinion about universal algorithm?
Oh...and please, don't tell me about banks, blocks, pages...

You pinpointed a very common reason to what often is a cause for corruption on flash memories. Very often the FAT tables is completely gone or has moved to wrong location while most of the other data, including MBR is intact. This is, what I belive, happening when the controller loses control when it is trying to replace a part or a whole block. Sometimes the controller cannot translate the memory chip at all after such operation has failed. This results in a completely inaccessible device and a job for the new universal super SD solution

I think it's boolcrap
But I would be glad if I'm wrong
But from my experience I'm was wrong very few times (In DR matter)

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hehe
I would be surprised if you can teach me something that I don't know
If that happen I will need to break my promise - not to ask questions here but only answer them

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I have to ask you excuse me, because some of my words about you was wrong. I know exactly you're not lammer he-he.
But of course I would be glad if you can also teach me something too.
Sometimes all attempts in DR consists of trials and mistakes, and it is OK.
Let's wait magical solution from SD. I would be glad too if it's true, but you and me knows about impossibility I hope my belief is bullshit, but let's see...

Creator,
Having knowledge does not mean, that you have the freedom to tell anyone, "bring it on, I can teach you".
Especially, when that "anyone" is Doomer......He obviosly is more talented then you...(Atleast what I have seen so far)..

You may consider yourself a master of flash drives, but you have not seen "gurus" yet......That's all I have to say!

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Yes, you're right.
I know that Doomer is a big guru. I have respect to him and I ask him excuse me. It was just my emotions I don't wanna discuss about this, because I know that we both have similar opinion. But it is only our deal. And of course I'm not a guru. I'm just user of PC3K flash, PCI, UDMA and several products else. And flash is very interest area for me, I think it is future of data storage

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I know one man who made something which was very universal for flash and worked on a great deal of his cases. The trick is to program the utility to have some self learning and logic..

However, I'm know guru in flash recovery LMFAO

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Ahum I am no Guru in flash recovery..... It was early I cannot spell LOL

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Hi ,
Well If Laura Says Universal i think she Wants To Say all different Algorithms Combined Together In a Software

Lol

Its Universal Algorithm

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I hear this is out in May, maybe someone from SD now can tell us more about it...

No news yet? Maybe there is too much expectation forthe universal algorythm. Maybe its not universal, but automated?

Maybe it is bullshit or something else?
Autoalgorithm based on memory chip sounds cool
Is there any technician guys in SD?
I wanna buy SD tool, no matter what they develop!
I would buy this because of SD reputation!
Awaiting!!!

Cheers

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I wonder if the NAND reader will have ACE written on it.....

Ahahahaha...
No, it's easy to produce own case (chasis). In China costs 2-3 USD per each.
Or they will use the lastic to remove ACE label.
But I wonder if they develop anything!!!

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According to salvationdata itself about their "magical" flash tool:



Wow...50%..that's really a promising rate for a universal algorithm..

But really, doesn't those guys have even a simple common sense, that how shitty it sounds when you are talking about a universal tool, and says that it's success rate is 50%? No really, one can achive much better rate with only a windows machine with a usb port..

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50 - 60% on all devices, or just selected ones that have been tested? 60% success on a wide variety of controllers and a wide variety of NAND chips with multiple is much better than 60% of a single algorythm and page specification.

But unless the figure reaches 80% - 90% I really doubt people will stray from Ace or Soft Centre.

why take a chance on something new, when the current solutions work well?

Still, I am very intrigued, and in a way I am hoping SD will come through with a great product. Im a big enough man to admit I am wrong if this happens.

As far as I know release is 1st May, unless this has changed. Anybody know any different? I wonder how SD beta testers are finding it.