October 21st, 2013, 9:27
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October 27th, 2013, 7:24
einstein9 wrote:I would like to add here something to Dr.Kiev comments:
When we define tools or anything else we might tell One of Two things:
1- Good
2- Perfect
In fact do not Expect people who Manufacture GOOD stuff to INVEST on their Tools AS the PERFECT Manufacturers
both MIGHT look the same, BUT NEVER EVER the same Output.
I ordered before the Chinese Plastic Edition which is VERY CHEAP Compared to the Pro. Tool which i got from Nikola`s
to be honest wanted to try 1st. and see how it goes AS A TEST n PRACTICE NEVER ON CLIENTS DRIVES
Finally, to cut it short,,,
The Time spent on Learning Cheap Tools is like 50x compared to the Pro. Tools
Successful rate in Pro. Tools is like 90% Compared to Cheap tools which takes more time to get used to it.
Production Quality Between Both = No Comparison
100+ with Dr.Kiev here
October 27th, 2013, 7:30
DR-Kiev wrote:I wish to say big thanks to Nikola for his great developed heads exchange tools .
We tried many different tools from different companies, but his tools has higher condition and quality .
If anybody wish to start business in DR , it is imposible to provide good DR service without such extremely important devices .
October 27th, 2013, 7:43
October 27th, 2013, 9:50
jignesh wrote:einstein9 wrote:I would like to add here something to Dr.Kiev comments:
When we define tools or anything else we might tell One of Two things:
1- Good
2- Perfect
In fact do not Expect people who Manufacture GOOD stuff to INVEST on their Tools AS the PERFECT Manufacturers
both MIGHT look the same, BUT NEVER EVER the same Output.
I ordered before the Chinese Plastic Edition which is VERY CHEAP Compared to the Pro. Tool which i got from Nikola`s
to be honest wanted to try 1st. and see how it goes AS A TEST n PRACTICE NEVER ON CLIENTS DRIVES
Finally, to cut it short,,,
The Time spent on Learning Cheap Tools is like 50x compared to the Pro. Tools
Successful rate in Pro. Tools is like 90% Compared to Cheap tools which takes more time to get used to it.
Production Quality Between Both = No Comparison
100+ with Dr.Kiev here
Dear Friend einstein9
Can U Provide The Test Result With Case Studies With Details That prove the both tools sucess ratio.
your short dicription with pic there is no comparision in realtime work process or case studies or sucess ratio.
what is the weak point in plastic tools and pro tools and what is the plus point in pro tools or plastic tools.
and last final sucess result. its very helpfull information for all users if u provide in full details.
yours friend
jignesh pankhania
October 27th, 2013, 10:15
helpdisc wrote:jignesh wrote:einstein9 wrote:I would like to add here something to Dr.Kiev comments:
When we define tools or anything else we might tell One of Two things:
1- Good
2- Perfect
In fact do not Expect people who Manufacture GOOD stuff to INVEST on their Tools AS the PERFECT Manufacturers
both MIGHT look the same, BUT NEVER EVER the same Output.
I ordered before the Chinese Plastic Edition which is VERY CHEAP Compared to the Pro. Tool which i got from Nikola`s
to be honest wanted to try 1st. and see how it goes AS A TEST n PRACTICE NEVER ON CLIENTS DRIVES
Finally, to cut it short,,,
The Time spent on Learning Cheap Tools is like 50x compared to the Pro. Tools
Successful rate in Pro. Tools is like 90% Compared to Cheap tools which takes more time to get used to it.
Production Quality Between Both = No Comparison
100+ with Dr.Kiev here
Dear Friend einstein9
Can U Provide The Test Result With Case Studies With Details That prove the both tools sucess ratio.
your short dicription with pic there is no comparision in realtime work process or case studies or sucess ratio.
what is the weak point in plastic tools and pro tools and what is the plus point in pro tools or plastic tools.
and last final sucess result. its very helpfull information for all users if u provide in full details.
yours friend
jignesh pankhania
This is like you will say I am using SD tools and they are better then PC3k.
I am not saying SD tools can not help with recovery but pc3k tool is much more powerfull.
I has been 6 years since we started developing tool and thanks to Good we do not need to prove anything any more.
If You have seen our videos you would not be speaking like that.
If You ask for difference between tools beside quality, durability and precision on our side is
(even developers of plastic tools said they are not for proffesional but for hobbist on this forum )
1. supported model list
2. Pdf manual
3. Video manual
4. Animation
Who ever used our tools and tried and has founds to owe them will never change heads or extract bearing withouth them.
Reason why are they so usefull is because they are developed for our own lab, for our usage.
We are not sales men, we do not sell it to who ever pays we sell them to our collages. A lot of them I can call our friends now. If you think this is advertising of tools you can, but you can also ask on this forum about us and I am sure
99% of answers will be like ones in this topic.
October 27th, 2013, 10:55
October 27th, 2013, 11:04
October 28th, 2013, 4:03
einstein9 wrote:@ jignesh
do u SELL those Plastic tools in India?
If yes, this closes the subject
If No, Have you ever USED those tools from hddsurgery?
If Yes, this closes the subject
If No, then you are using the plastic tools - which means YOU cannot tell the Diff. between both
thank you
October 28th, 2013, 4:43
jignesh wrote:einstein9 wrote:@ jignesh
do u SELL those Plastic tools in India?
If yes, this closes the subject
If No, Have you ever USED those tools from hddsurgery?
If Yes, this closes the subject
If No, then you are using the plastic tools - which means YOU cannot tell the Diff. between both
thank you
My Very Dear Friend einstein9
First I Clear That i am not tool saler and i dont need to do it i have enough work to do my real job.
2nd thing
i dont have any plastic tools or any pro tools.
i have work with my own tools that i make myself its very chip and work always for me.
and please tell me and correct me the defination of "PRO TOOLS"
i just belive in that wich tools give best successfull case complition this is best no matter its built from plastic,still,diamond or from anything.
i think here all belive that COSTLY TOOL is PRO and CHIP TOOL @ like some one design and devlop or other plastic product is not PRO.
i am not agree with this thinking bcoz its make our work not time to time.
i belive in make ourself best dont depend on any company or pro. i am using all my own design by hard defrent hard drive and make.
also this save my money too and when new drives or new design comes in market all pro tools owner waiting for new pro tool and that time i am design my own tool by my experiance and skill no waiting for solution.
and ya sir einstein9 in less then 1 pro tools cost i make all my seagate tools.
this is the benifit i get from every view.
i belive that dependency make our logic week make our thinking capacity down.
sorry if you dont like my post or reply but its my thinking i am not tell anyone to follow.
again sorry if anyone hurt by my reply.
yours friend
jignesh pankhania
October 28th, 2013, 4:58
October 28th, 2013, 4:59
einstein9 wrote:jignesh wrote:einstein9 wrote:@ jignesh
do u SELL those Plastic tools in India?
If yes, this closes the subject
If No, Have you ever USED those tools from hddsurgery?
If Yes, this closes the subject
If No, then you are using the plastic tools - which means YOU cannot tell the Diff. between both
thank you
My Very Dear Friend einstein9
First I Clear That i am not tool saler and i dont need to do it i have enough work to do my real job.
2nd thing
i dont have any plastic tools or any pro tools.
i have work with my own tools that i make myself its very chip and work always for me.
and please tell me and correct me the defination of "PRO TOOLS"
i just belive in that wich tools give best successfull case complition this is best no matter its built from plastic,still,diamond or from anything.
i think here all belive that COSTLY TOOL is PRO and CHIP TOOL @ like some one design and devlop or other plastic product is not PRO.
i am not agree with this thinking bcoz its make our work not time to time.
i belive in make ourself best dont depend on any company or pro. i am using all my own design by hard defrent hard drive and make.
also this save my money too and when new drives or new design comes in market all pro tools owner waiting for new pro tool and that time i am design my own tool by my experiance and skill no waiting for solution.
and ya sir einstein9 in less then 1 pro tools cost i make all my seagate tools.
this is the benifit i get from every view.
i belive that dependency make our logic week make our thinking capacity down.
sorry if you dont like my post or reply but its my thinking i am not tell anyone to follow.
again sorry if anyone hurt by my reply.
yours friend
jignesh pankhania
the point here is NOT like: I DONT LIKE UR POST
it is about: ONCE you try the Pro. tools you will not EVEN think about using others.
if you OWN DDI then you will never EVEN THINK of using Apps. to clone drives
if you OWN UDMA then will never EVEN think of even looking @ SD tools
if if if if
unless you try you will never know or tell the Diff.
i guess its crystal clear.
I don`t know you, and you too also
my comments came here from my working experience trying BOTH/ALL tools
thats it
good luck
October 28th, 2013, 5:04
October 28th, 2013, 5:36
helpdisc wrote:So you are not using pc3k or something like that?
You develop all by your self?
You have it all wrong, since a team of people can do much more then one man.
Esspecialy with right tools to make tools.
October 28th, 2013, 7:42
October 28th, 2013, 7:53
microsoftengineer wrote:i am well setisfied with my running setup.
then why you need Comparison if you are well satisfied why you are wasting others Time .......
October 28th, 2013, 11:15
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