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 Post subject: Thank You - SGData Poland
PostPosted: April 25th, 2020, 5:53 
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Hello ,
I hope all of you at SGdata are safe and sound ,I have been undergoing this incredible journey in discovering NAND flash Data recovery with VNR and i wanted to thank you guys ,You have Some incredible Rusolut VNR videos out there ,Keep up this great work ,People like you help us to discover new opportunities in DR field .Its been two long years since i purchased VNR and Its now in this lockdown that i am really using it and learning

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Channel Link -> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVwaxKNLrHW5y4mj52e0vzw

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 Post subject: Re: Thank You - SGData Poland
PostPosted: April 26th, 2020, 10:17 
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Thanks Amarbir for pointing the Channel out. I don't understand a word of it, plus I think I am missing some important bits because of it. Most of looks pretty basic (monolith recovery Pr0n) but maybe there is more in the Audio. For example how did the author know where to connect LA, how was it interpreted, what are the gadgets etc.

BTW there is a great in depth review of the LA that appears to be used. Using a small glimpse of the marking of the LA plus a google image search, it looks like this one. The Review video really goes deep and is interesting in many parts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ5wKYnCNcs

The author worked on the original UI for Sigrok, and there is an interesting discussion about the DSL people using Sigrok in contravene of the GPL.

I wonder how it will compare to my Saleae Logic Pro 16. I've ordered one to play with anyway. I've tried saving the few grand for a decent LA but just cant put that much into one right now, probably never!


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 Post subject: Re: Thank You - SGData Poland
PostPosted: April 26th, 2020, 10:44 
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Well,
The idea of seeing his channel is understanding VNR .I requested him to make a few videos in english and he refused .I have that Hantek 5034 LA ,And i also saw Zeroplus has The New Lap-C Pro Series .But the point it that i am not into using LA right now ,Might be once lockdown is over i will see that .I did though make a video on this LA here -> https://youtu.be/C4yTQ29rHMQ

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 Post subject: Re: Thank You - SGData Poland
PostPosted: April 27th, 2020, 8:35 
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There isn't much actual VNR tutorial but there is still some nice videos. Harder when you don't speak what I assume is Polish.

That's about all the Hantek is good for IMHO, then putting it back in the box and re-selling it to someone that just wants to do low speed stuff. The manual is next to useless, and contains no technical info (how much does performance drop with multiple signals etc)

Did you ever make the video you mentioned using it for monolith pinout discovery?

The Lap-C isn't that new but it is quite expensive. Lap-F's look better but are even more expensive.


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 Post subject: Re: Thank You - SGData Poland
PostPosted: April 27th, 2020, 8:44 
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HaQue wrote:
There isn't much actual VNR tutorial but there is still some nice videos. Harder when you don't speak what I assume is Polish.

Yes it's in polish. I never wanted to rule the World in DR that's why it's not in english. The whole idea of this channel was to answer the big question: why is data recovery so expensive. But it's also quite good advertisement.

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 Post subject: Re: Thank You - SGData Poland
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HaQue wrote:
There isn't much actual VNR tutorial but there is still some nice videos. Harder when you don't speak what I assume is Polish.

That's about all the Hantek is good for IMHO, then putting it back in the box and re-selling it to someone that just wants to do low speed stuff. The manual is next to useless, and contains no technical info (how much does performance drop with multiple signals etc)

Did you ever make the video you mentioned using it for monolith pinout discovery?

The Lap-C isn't that new but it is quite expensive. Lap-F's look better but are even more expensive.


Well,
You Missed The Point ,The Once that i am eyeing is LAP-C Pro Not The Lap-C .I Do not understand The Procedure yet but i am sure Hantek will work if only idea Is getting a NAND ID from the Chip itself ,Well i never made the video cos i had no time to learn ,But i am fully geared now and once office starts i will get into it .VNR is on my Hit list These Days in learning .Its a tool that helps you understand NAND More Better Then Pc3K Atleast .

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 Post subject: Re: Thank You - SGData Poland
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melvin wrote:
HaQue wrote:
There isn't much actual VNR tutorial but there is still some nice videos. Harder when you don't speak what I assume is Polish.

Yes it's in polish. I never wanted to rule the World in DR that's why it's not in english. The whole idea of this channel was to answer the big question: why is data recovery so expensive. But it's also quite good advertisement.


Hi ,
Can You Make Atleast one Video for teaching basics of Monolith Pinout Discovery In English ,Might be i will be a bright student and show you if i can do something properly .Do you like your LA ,I checked the link Haque gave me ,Its quite a nice LA .

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 Post subject: Re: Thank You - SGData Poland
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Yes i like DS-logic. Never tested any other though. Planning to buy DSLogic U3Pro32 soon.
As for tutorial videos - i don't feel good enough to teach.

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 Post subject: Re: Thank You - SGData Poland
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melvin wrote:
Yes i like DS-logic. Never tested any other though. Planning to buy DSLogic U3Pro32 soon.
As for tutorial videos - i don't feel good enough to teach.


Well,
USD 400 For The One You Are Wanting To Buy ,Why Did You Buy The Earlier One First ,Were you learning tricks of the trade .As Far as Monolith Pin-out Discovery is Concerned , Its just a matter of time for me that govt of india lifts the lockdown and boom it wil be done ,Well they said better try before you speak in my case i plan to work on a know pinout and try

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 Post subject: Re: Thank You - SGData Poland
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Amarbir[CDR-Labs] wrote:
Why Did You Buy The Earlier One First

It was cheap.

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 Post subject: Re: Thank You - SGData Poland
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I have a DSLogic U3Pro32 on the way. About time I got to work on the 100 or so monoliths I've been collecting. My Saleae is just not up to the task. I'm looking at buying a support contract for VNR soon, so may post my own videos as well, when I learn how to do the videos!


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 Post subject: Re: Thank You - SGData Poland
PostPosted: May 14th, 2020, 11:13 
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Well,
Very Nice ,Once You Get The LA Let us Know In a Post Your Experience With IT ,It Also Works With Sigrok i Think

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 Post subject: Re: Thank You - SGData Poland
PostPosted: May 14th, 2020, 20:03 
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Amarbir[CDR-Labs] wrote:
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Very Nice ,Once You Get The LA Let us Know In a Post Your Experience With IT ,It Also Works With Sigrok i Think

The smaller ones do, but this one is not listed.

They ported their GUI from Sigrok, but apparently theirs is a little more feature rich anyway, so no big deal if this isn't supported yet.

One thing I will be keen to learn is how to setup your own protocol decoder. I doubt the Samsung one that appears in a few LA's would be suitable for many chips these days... I don't know, not much experience in it yet


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 Post subject: Re: Thank You - SGData Poland
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Received my DSLogic U3Pro32 yesterday. Thinking of ways to make monolith testing easier and quicker.

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 Post subject: Re: Thank You - SGData Poland
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Nice! Hope to buy it soon too.

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 Post subject: Re: Thank You - SGData Poland
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melvin wrote:
Nice! Hope to buy it soon too.


Humm,
Might be i order this myself

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 Post subject: Re: Thank You - SGData Poland
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Amarbir[CDR-Labs] wrote:
melvin wrote:
Nice! Hope to buy it soon too.


Humm,
Might be i order this myself

What for? :D

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 Post subject: Re: Thank You - SGData Poland
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So he can share all the pinouts he finds with us!


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 Post subject: Re: Thank You - SGData Poland
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HaQue wrote:
So he can share all the pinouts he finds with us!

Need to buy a bigger drive then.

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 Post subject: Re: Thank You - SGData Poland
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HaQue wrote:
Received my DSLogic U3Pro32 yesterday. Thinking of ways to make monolith testing easier and quicker.


Hello HaQue,

Are you happy with it ? I'm a fervent sigrok user, planning to buy one in the next couple hours ;-)


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