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 Post subject: MRT USB TERMINAL ONLY WORKS WITH 3.3V
PostPosted: November 1st, 2021, 3:21 
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My MRT USB Terminal now works with only 3.3v supported HDD before this it works with 3.3v & 1.8v.

Now i can't work with 1.8v (Greenda, Rosewood etc)

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is it repairable? which parts to check?


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 Post subject: Re: MRT USB TERMINAL ONLY WORKS WITH 3.3V
PostPosted: November 1st, 2021, 7:19 
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I presume that U2 is logic level translator, try to find out which one is it and provide I/O level power to corresponding pin. U3 and U4 could be regulators providing 3.3 and 1.8 as detected.


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 Post subject: Re: MRT USB TERMINAL ONLY WORKS WITH 3.3V
PostPosted: November 1st, 2021, 14:58 
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CP2102 has a built-in 3.3V LDO regulator, so I expect that the external LDOs may be 1.8V and 2.5V.

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 Post subject: Re: MRT USB TERMINAL ONLY WORKS WITH 3.3V
PostPosted: November 2nd, 2021, 1:45 
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How to check and troubleshoot the problem? i don't have much knowledge in this


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 Post subject: Re: MRT USB TERMINAL ONLY WORKS WITH 3.3V
PostPosted: November 2nd, 2021, 15:10 
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Connect Tx to Rx and then perform a loopback test using PuTTY, HyperTerminal, or some other communications software. I could be more specific, but all I see are black things.

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 Post subject: Re: MRT USB TERMINAL ONLY WORKS WITH 3.3V
PostPosted: November 4th, 2021, 2:26 
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It is working with ST3500418AS and 500DM002 etc

but not working with latest model HDD (ie. No Terminal OUTPUT) drivers changed but no luck

1.8v and 2.5v is not supported but some days before Adapter worked well.

how to repair this?


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 Post subject: Re: MRT USB TERMINAL ONLY WORKS WITH 3.3V
PostPosted: November 5th, 2021, 13:31 
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I can't help you because all I see are black things.

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 Post subject: Re: MRT USB TERMINAL ONLY WORKS WITH 3.3V
PostPosted: November 7th, 2021, 2:11 
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fzabkar wrote:
I can't help you because all I see are black things.


can't understand. Can you spot those black things


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 Post subject: Re: MRT USB TERMINAL ONLY WORKS WITH 3.3V
PostPosted: November 7th, 2021, 12:26 
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gps31 wrote:
fzabkar wrote:
I can't help you because all I see are black things.


can't understand. Can you spot those black things

U1, U2, U3, U4.

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 Post subject: Re: MRT USB TERMINAL ONLY WORKS WITH 3.3V
PostPosted: November 8th, 2021, 0:55 
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U1 : SILABS CP2102 DCL0XN 1643
U2 : LVC125A 266 124 SXD14 03D
U3 : VCZ
U4 : VCZ


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 Post subject: Re: MRT USB TERMINAL ONLY WORKS WITH 3.3V
PostPosted: November 8th, 2021, 13:49 
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There don't appear to be any LDO regulators. Instead U3 and U4 appear to be Schmitt trigger inverters, and these perform the level translation. The RxD input appears to be cascaded through these two inverters before passing to U2 and then on to CP2102.

I would set up a loopback test with RxD connected to TxD, and then send a continuous stream of "U" characters (alternate 1s and 0s). Use a scope to monitor the signal transitions.


L74VHC1GT14, LESHAN RADIO COMPANY, Schmitt-Trigger Inverter/ CMOS Logic Level Shifter, marking VCx, SOT23-5:
https://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/pdf/280539/LRC/L74VHC1GT14.html

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The device input is compatible with TTL–type input thresholds and the output has a full 5 V CMOS level output swing. The input protection circuitry on this device allows overvoltage tolerance on the input, allowing the device to be used as a logic–level translator from 3.0 V CMOS logic to 5.0 V CMOS Logic or from 1.8 V CMOS logic to 3.0 V CMOS Logic while operating at the high–voltage power supply.


SN74LVC125A, Texas Instruments, Quadruple Bus Buffer Gate With 3-State Outputs, marking LVC125A:
https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/sn74lvc125a.pdf

CP2102, Silicon Labs, USB-TO-UART BRIDGE, QFN-28:
https://www.silabs.com/documents/public/data-sheets/CP2102-9.pdf

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 Post subject: Re: MRT USB TERMINAL ONLY WORKS WITH 3.3V
PostPosted: November 8th, 2021, 14:52 
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MC74VHC1GT14, ON Semiconductor, Schmitt-Trigger Inverter / CMOS Logic Level Shifter, marking VCm, SOT23-5:
https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/308/mc74vhc1gt14-d-1193426.pdf

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 Post subject: Re: MRT USB TERMINAL ONLY WORKS WITH 3.3V
PostPosted: November 9th, 2021, 15:44 
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@gps31, did you get anywhere with this?

You can create a file consisting of 100K repetitions of the letter "U" and then transmit it to your adapter's virtual COM port at 300bps (= 30 bytes per second). That should give you 55 minutes of troubleshooting time before you need to resend the file. Or you could create a 1MB file for 9 hours of troubleshooting.


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Downloaded 385 times

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 Post subject: Re: MRT USB TERMINAL ONLY WORKS WITH 3.3V
PostPosted: May 9th, 2022, 3:26 
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gps31 wrote:
My MRT USB Terminal now works with only 3.3v supported HDD before this it works with 3.3v & 1.8v.

Now i can't work with 1.8v (Greenda, Rosewood etc)

Attachment:
MRT USB Terminal.jpg


is it repairable? which parts to check?


You can refer to this link to have a look
http://us.mrtlab.com/tech/otherdisk/307.html

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 Post subject: Re: MRT USB TERMINAL ONLY WORKS WITH 3.3V
PostPosted: May 9th, 2022, 9:45 
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mrtlabinfo wrote:
gps31 wrote:
My MRT USB Terminal now works with only 3.3v supported HDD before this it works with 3.3v & 1.8v.

Now i can't work with 1.8v (Greenda, Rosewood etc)

Attachment:
MRT USB Terminal.jpg


is it repairable? which parts to check?


You can refer to this link to have a look
http://us.mrtlab.com/tech/otherdisk/307.html


Hey Listen ,
We are trying to solve a issue here and you are doing your stupid marketing ,Either solve his problem or stop participating in threads .

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 Post subject: Re: MRT USB TERMINAL ONLY WORKS WITH 3.3V
PostPosted: May 9th, 2022, 12:40 
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Amarbir[CDR-Labs] wrote:
Hey Listen ,
We are trying to solve a issue here and you are doing your stupid marketing ,Either solve his problem or stop participating in threads .

Are they not solving the issue by having discontinued the old aterminal adapter in the OP with a new adapter wirh faster speeds and voltage settings?

What they failed to do is provide a link to easily order the newer adapter in ther post above or on the linked web page.

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