HDD GURU FORUMS
http://forum.hddguru.com/

Image, recovery and clone - software
http://forum.hddguru.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=34921		 Page 1 of 1
Author:  Bellzemos [ February 1st, 2017, 16:04 ]
Post subject:  Image, recovery and clone - software
Hi!

I hope I'm in the right place to ask this. I use AOMEI Backupper Free software for imaging, recovering and clonning HDDs. Someone told me that their software doesn't work as it should and the the restored image of a drive will have worse performance becuase of the drivers weren't installed properly (o_O ?!?). And that I should buy professional/paid software, like Acronis True Image.

Could he be right or is he bullshitting me? I always tought that a clone is a clone and that a recovered image is a recovered image - no matter the program which did it. Could I be wrong and is he right?

Thank you!
Author:  LarrySabo [ February 1st, 2017, 18:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: Image, recovery and clone - software
Here's a review of 20 drive imaging programs by Raymond CC. I have used Acronis True Image 2013 and AOMEI Backupper to back up my and my customers' hard drives for years and they are both excellent. My only complaint with AOMEI Backupper is its un-intuitive user interface. I found Acronis's 2016 user interface terrible and reverted to the 2013 version. You probably can't go wrong with any of the 20 programs in that review.
Author:  Bellzemos [ February 2nd, 2017, 6:38 ]
Post subject:  Re: Image, recovery and clone - software
I am not doing sector-by-sector exact clones or images. Could that be where AOMEI and Acronis could differ?
Author:  LarrySabo [ February 2nd, 2017, 9:20 ]
Post subject:  Re: Image, recovery and clone - software
No, they both offer sector-by-sector imaging as an option. Normally, they are used to create compressed, data-only images. While they both have options to skip read errors, they will abort the process if the drive is really unstable.
Author:  Bellzemos [ February 2nd, 2017, 9:50 ]
Post subject:  Re: Image, recovery and clone - software
Yes, I don't use that feature (the exact sector-by-sector imaging). I create and recover data-only images of hard disk drives. So, can they differ? AOMEI and Acronis? Or is my friend bullshitting me? I'm not paying for Acronis if AOMEI offers the same for free (as I don't need the other features that Acronis offers).
Author:  digitalferret [ February 2nd, 2017, 11:47 ]
Post subject:  Re: Image, recovery and clone - software
Wondering if this is a terminology problem, data recovery v system (backup and) recovery.

from
Quote:
Someone told me that their software doesn't work as it should and the the restored image of a drive will have worse performance because of the drivers weren't installed properly (o_O ?!?).


whichever software you use:

Backup and recovery software will have options to restore files folders and systems, however, they must be made *before* any drive problems occur.
The options must also be set up to perform the recovery that you expect to require. ie Bare Metal backup, (entire bit by bit clone) or just user data such as My Documents and below.

Data recovery is distinctly different from system recovery in that it is only concerned with data, not an operational system.
The drive more often than not has already developed faults.
Clone the drive entirely and recover the data the client wants back. no OS included. Drivers won't matter at all.

If you are wanting to take a problematic drive out, copy the system (and data) to a new drive and plug it back in, you will encounter problems.
If there are bad data on the original problematic drive, those errors will be copied forwards too.
As previously mentioned, if there are bad sectors it may not even copy at all.

You cannot, with any confidence, do part system recoveries where you re install Windows and then superimpose the old file system over it in the hope that programs and drivers will still remain good.
They won't.
Author:  Blizzard [ February 2nd, 2017, 13:22 ]
Post subject:  Re: Image, recovery and clone - software
I have used Aoemi Backupper and Acronis both without issues for PC backup and restore. The only issue I had with AOEMI is that it was supposed to be Windows server compatible but the scheduled backups did not work on Windows Server. They did however work for a PC.
That's why I use R-Drive Image from R-Tools, the developer of R-Studio. It works with PCs and Servers and it's less than $50. The image format is the same as R-Studio too.
IMO Acronis backup for Windows servers is way too much $.
Author:  Bellzemos [ February 2nd, 2017, 18:05 ]
Post subject:  Re: Image, recovery and clone - software
Thank you for all the replies. Let me clear things up.

Quote:
If you use the options on the software to do a full drive image/clone then no matter what software you use as long as it doesn't have any bugs the restored image/clone should be identical, because it should be an exact copy of the drive on the moment you took the image. If this doesn't happen then your imaging software is not working as expected or your original drive is damaged (or the destination drive is damaged).


That's what I'm talking about. Not data recovery off of a (damaged) drive. I'm talking about making an image of an entire HDD (Windows partition and anything else that's on that same drive). And then restoring it to another computer with the same hardware or the same computer that it was created off.

So AOMEI Backupper Standard (Free) should do the job fine, right? My friend says that the systems (computers) which HDD have the recovered image from another (same HW) computer won't perform optimally. I always tought that an image is an image, no matter the tool and that it should work exactly the same.

AOMEI offer an exact sector-by-sector imaging of a drive but I don't use that option. I guess that would image empty sectors as well, I don't do/need that.

So, is my friend right or wrong? Would we benefit from getting Acronis True Image? I don't think so, he does.

Again, thanx! :)
Author:  rogfanther [ February 3rd, 2017, 17:25 ]
Post subject:  Re: Image, recovery and clone - software
Your friend is mostly wrong. Probably he heard someone talking about other aspects of the way those programs work, and misunderstood something.

Both programs will give the same result in the way you want to use them. You can also use Clonezilla, again with same results.
Author:  Bellzemos [ February 5th, 2017, 11:45 ]
Post subject:  Re: Image, recovery and clone - software
Thank you for the confirmation. My friend thinks he knows everything but he is wrong. I asked specifically on this forum because I know you are the HDD gurus. :) Thank you!
Author:  fzabkar [ February 5th, 2017, 15:47 ]
Post subject:  Re: Image, recovery and clone - software
Bellzemos wrote:
So AOMEI Backupper Standard (Free) should do the job fine, right? My friend says that the systems (computers) which HDD have the recovered image from another (same HW) computer won't perform optimally. I always tought that an image is an image, no matter the tool and that it should work exactly the same.

AOMEI offer an exact sector-by-sector imaging of a drive but I don't use that option. I guess that would image empty sectors as well, I don't do/need that.

ISTM that you are contradicting yourself. AIUI, you are creating a "logical" backup of your file system rather than a "physical" backup. ISTM that not all tools would necessarily produce the same result, although the "images" would most probably be functionally identical.
Page 1 of 1 All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
http://www.phpbb.com/