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 Post subject: HDD Raw Copy Tool - file
PostPosted: May 2nd, 2018, 13:08 
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Hello. I'm new on the forum. I've searched about this topic but haven't found what I need. Apologies if the answer is already out there.

I'm using "HDD Raw Copy Tool" to create a raw image of my drive.
After choosing source and the target, the tool warns that this action will overwrite everything on the target drive. I was expecting the creation of an image file, so I don't understand why it is going to replace the existing data. Am I missing something?

Any help will be much appreciated!


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 Post subject: Re: HDD Raw Copy Tool - file
PostPosted: May 2nd, 2018, 13:20 
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If you chose "Target" drive, it will clone your drive to that other drive.

I do not know if hddrct will create an image to a file. For that you can use clonezilla, or even ddrescue/hddsuperclone.


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 Post subject: Re: HDD Raw Copy Tool - file
PostPosted: May 2nd, 2018, 13:32 
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rogfanther wrote:
If you chose "Target" drive, it will clone your drive to that other drive.

I do not know if hddrct will create an image to a file. For that you can use clonezilla, or even ddrescue/hddsuperclone.


Thank you for your reply!
The tool webpage says "HDD Raw Copy Tool is a utility for low-level, sector-by-sector hard disk duplication and image creation. " and "HDD Raw Copy can create an exact raw (dd) or compressed image of the entire media (including service data such as MBR, Boot records, etc)", so it should. But indeed I didn't see any option to create an image file.

My problem with other softwares is that they don't state if their image is a bit-by-bit copy. They can copy everything if the disk is working ok, but if it's not, they will disregard the data that they can't reach. My disk has the partition table damaged, that's why I need the exact, bit-by-bit copy. And I think that's what this tool does, correct?


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 Post subject: Re: HDD Raw Copy Tool - file
PostPosted: May 2nd, 2018, 13:36 
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Ok, I think I got it:
When choosing the target, if instead of choosing the disk I use the 'File' option, type a name for the file, it will create a .imgc file and the warning of overwriting data does not appear.


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 Post subject: Re: HDD Raw Copy Tool - file
PostPosted: May 2nd, 2018, 15:06 
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ssdana wrote:
Ok, I think I got it:
When choosing the target, if instead of choosing the disk I use the 'File' option, type a name for the file, it will create a .imgc file and the warning of overwriting data does not appear.


Make sure that your image file is in exact raw (byte-by-byte copy) and it's not compressed with it's own propriatary format otherwise you will not be able to use logic data recovery software like r-studio on the image file.

And if the HDD is damaged / have bad sectors you will be better off with HDDSuperClone ...

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Lacking something like an hardware based imager/cloning tool ddrescue and HDDSuperClone should be your choices for software only sollution to image/clone damaged drives ...

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 Post subject: Re: HDD Raw Copy Tool - file
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Spildit wrote:
Make sure that your image file is in exact raw (byte-by-byte copy) and it's not compressed with it's own propriatary format otherwise you will not be able to use logic data recovery software like r-studio on the image file.

And if the HDD is damaged / have bad sectors you will be better off with HDDSuperClone ...

Regards and good luck !


Thank you for your answer! But I didnt completely understand it...could you explain further?
How can I make sure the image is not compressed? The software either does it or not...
What is "logic data recovery"? (couldn't find anything on google)

About the bad sectors issue...my drive is an ssd and it is not physically damaged.


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 Post subject: Re: HDD Raw Copy Tool - file
PostPosted: May 2nd, 2018, 18:29 
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- If the image is compressed or uses propriatary format then you can't use that image with anything else apart from that tool. I don't use that specific tool so i don't know. Let's say that i do make a imaging tool called "Spildit Imaging tool" or whatever and i do have an option to image to file and i do compress that file and for example exclude empty sectors, etc ... you will not be able to use that image file with any other tool but you can use that image to restore the drive using the same tool. In other words you can use Spildit Image Tool to restore your drive by using the image but you can't use my image with for example HDD Raw Copy to restore the disk.

- Logic data recovery software is stuff like R-Studio, GetDataBack, etc ... Software to recover data that was deleted, that is no longer accessible due to damage MFT, damaged or lost partitions, formated drive, etc ...

- If you have SSD and the problem is only "logic" like damaged partition table then you should be able to image it just fine and later extract the data from the image as long as the software that you are going to use to extract the data can open the image file.

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 Post subject: Re: HDD Raw Copy Tool - file
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(I though I had posted this answer before, but apparantly not...)

Thank you Spildit for your help. About the use of other softwares, I had found other ones at first, including ddrescue. I ended up not using them because I couldn't either understand how to use them or I wasn't sure what kind of image they did (weather sector-by-sector or not).

About the use of HDD Raw Tool, I created the image file. It is 219 GB, while the disk is 256 GB, so I'm assuming it is compressed? I would like to know from someone that uses this specific tool.
Also, do I lose any information (not necessarely data) of the disk by the compression?


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 Post subject: Re: HDD Raw Copy Tool - file
PostPosted: May 4th, 2018, 8:18 
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I also haven't found anything about restoring the image file created by "HDD Raw Copy Tool".
Is it by selecting the image as 'source' and an empty drive as destination? Or do I need another HDDGuru tool?


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