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 Post subject: Re: About Nikola's (hddsurgery) tools
PostPosted: October 29th, 2013, 3:34 
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Ultimately, there are certain tolerances and dependencies that are needed to successfully change out defective head assembly, or spindle, aswell as a good technique. Nikolas tools promotes a good technique while catering the tolerances and dependencies and ensuring it is done safely.

If you dont use, or have your own solution, great. But I have used in-house tools, and a variety of commercial tools, and nothing commercial even comes close to the tools from Helpdisc in relation to quality and effectiveness.


Hi Dear Friend HDDGUY.

first Thank You For Join Discussion.
Dear friend hddguy in ur think u r true but see everytime somes one comes with new design and technic that far batterthen running.
so that mean dont see on that and always stick the one producti in mind is the wrong.
we see that somes one with new product and design that far batter then all running products comes in market and take place of old tools.
and everytime we appose and dont see on that product and stick with one thing in mind is not good.
everyones ideas and technic is uniq bcoz we all have defrent thinking.
and ya helpdisk say that something about bmw and all
i say about it that they are right bmw is pro bcoz they distroy many cars in defrent type of TESTING.
then why helpdisk not provide the TESTING with 2 new drive and finaly show the correct TESTING result with the full result.
use 2 new hard drive and change head and then finaly show the drive is detected or not head replcement sucess or not otherwise what the defrece betweek pro tools and plastic tools both are JUST change the head. 2 hdd cost and videomaker cost is not so so high then pro tools and take a pro seat.

sorry for my bad english.

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 Post subject: Re: About Nikola's (hddsurgery) tools
PostPosted: October 29th, 2013, 4:44 
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jignesh wrote:
hddguy wrote:
Ultimately, there are certain tolerances and dependencies that are needed to successfully change out defective head assembly, or spindle, aswell as a good technique. Nikolas tools promotes a good technique while catering the tolerances and dependencies and ensuring it is done safely.

If you dont use, or have your own solution, great. But I have used in-house tools, and a variety of commercial tools, and nothing commercial even comes close to the tools from Helpdisc in relation to quality and effectiveness.


Hi Dear Friend HDDGUY.

first Thank You For Join Discussion.
Dear friend hddguy in ur think u r true but see everytime somes one comes with new design and technic that far batterthen running.
so that mean dont see on that and always stick the one producti in mind is the wrong.
we see that somes one with new product and design that far batter then all running products comes in market and take place of old tools.
and everytime we appose and dont see on that product and stick with one thing in mind is not good.
everyones ideas and technic is uniq bcoz we all have defrent thinking.
and ya helpdisk say that something about bmw and all
i say about it that they are right bmw is pro bcoz they distroy many cars in defrent type of TESTING.
then why helpdisk not provide the TESTING with 2 new drive and finaly show the correct TESTING result with the full result.
use 2 new hard drive and change head and then finaly show the drive is detected or not head replcement sucess or not otherwise what the defrece betweek pro tools and plastic tools both are JUST change the head. 2 hdd cost and videomaker cost is not so so high then pro tools and take a pro seat.

sorry for my bad english.

yours friend
jignesh pankhania



@ jignesh - to cut it short here n close this subject

- I prefer using my Example of KIA & Ferrari again here as usual

You cannot tell the Ferrari guys: Hey, why don`t you Compare your Car Specs/Results/Whatever with KIA to Convince me buying

(Again, with all respect to KIA, they do have new Good Cars - in fact not cheap the newer models)

but Instead, you may ASK KIA to Compare

@ the end of the day, no one asked you to buy any of those Cars

if you can Afford - buy the Ferrari and Enjoy Driving
if NOT - then you may stick with your KIA or any other

thank you

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 Post subject: Re: About Nikola's (hddsurgery) tools
PostPosted: October 29th, 2013, 5:03 
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einstein9 wrote:
if you can Afford - buy the Ferrari and Enjoy Driving
if NOT - then you may stick with your KIA or any other


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 Post subject: Re: About Nikola's (hddsurgery) tools
PostPosted: October 29th, 2013, 7:10 
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einstein9 wrote:
jignesh wrote:
hddguy wrote:
Ultimately, there are certain tolerances and dependencies that are needed to successfully change out defective head assembly, or spindle, aswell as a good technique. Nikolas tools promotes a good technique while catering the tolerances and dependencies and ensuring it is done safely.

If you dont use, or have your own solution, great. But I have used in-house tools, and a variety of commercial tools, and nothing commercial even comes close to the tools from Helpdisc in relation to quality and effectiveness.


Hi Dear Friend HDDGUY.

first Thank You For Join Discussion.
Dear friend hddguy in ur think u r true but see everytime somes one comes with new design and technic that far batterthen running.
so that mean dont see on that and always stick the one producti in mind is the wrong.
we see that somes one with new product and design that far batter then all running products comes in market and take place of old tools.
and everytime we appose and dont see on that product and stick with one thing in mind is not good.
everyones ideas and technic is uniq bcoz we all have defrent thinking.
and ya helpdisk say that something about bmw and all
i say about it that they are right bmw is pro bcoz they distroy many cars in defrent type of TESTING.
then why helpdisk not provide the TESTING with 2 new drive and finaly show the correct TESTING result with the full result.
use 2 new hard drive and change head and then finaly show the drive is detected or not head replcement sucess or not otherwise what the defrece betweek pro tools and plastic tools both are JUST change the head. 2 hdd cost and videomaker cost is not so so high then pro tools and take a pro seat.

sorry for my bad english.

yours friend
jignesh pankhania



@ jignesh - to cut it short here n close this subject

- I prefer using my Example of KIA & Ferrari again here as usual

You cannot tell the Ferrari guys: Hey, why don`t you Compare your Car Specs/Results/Whatever with KIA to Convince me buying

(Again, with all respect to KIA, they do have new Good Cars - in fact not cheap the newer models)

but Instead, you may ASK KIA to Compare

@ the end of the day, no one asked you to buy any of those Cars

if you can Afford - buy the Ferrari and Enjoy Driving
if NOT - then you may stick with your KIA or any other

thank you


Dearest Friend einstein9

Again Wrong Thinking sorry if u hurt but ur thinking not TRUE,
If I Have Budget And Get Ferrari And At The Same Price I Have Choice To Buy NEW Company AND Their NEW MODEL With Current FERRARI Models.
Then I Definatly Go With The New One. :D
In Almost Conversions I Just See The VERY HIGH PRICING TOOLS ARE PRO.
i just tell the helpdisk (PRO TOOLS) to provide service like pro also they selling this all tools in this very high price and we all are clints and clints have right to know about correct support and complet video with sucess or not result i mean full results so we all are knowing that only tools work correctly or not give result or not or just give VIDEO that how to replce head and result like other tools they claim 90% our tools solve case successfully and CLINT STAY ALWAYS IN 10% :o

Thank You To Reply My POST.

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 Post subject: Re: About Nikola's (hddsurgery) tools
PostPosted: October 29th, 2013, 8:19 
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Success is not dependant on the tool specifically, but the person using it. If I use the tool on a drive with bad heads, there is a very good chance it will work. If I give the same tool to my 7 year old son, it will fail.

You dont need support, or video demonstrations or proof of concept, you need good technique and some basic knowledge.

If anyone gets just 10% success with or without this tool, then the problem is definitely related to human error.

The tool works well, anyone with the tools can vouch for it, and this goes further than a video demonstration ever can


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 Post subject: Re: About Nikola's (hddsurgery) tools
PostPosted: October 29th, 2013, 11:35 
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hddguy wrote:
Success is not dependant on the tool specifically, but the person using it. If I use the tool on a drive with bad heads, there is a very good chance it will work. If I give the same tool to my 7 year old son, it will fail.

You dont need support, or video demonstrations or proof of concept, you need good technique and some basic knowledge.

If anyone gets just 10% success with or without this tool, then the problem is definitely related to human error.

The tool works well, anyone with the tools can vouch for it, and this goes further than a video demonstration ever can


Dear Friend Hddguy

Definatly True That You Said I Am 100% Agree With You My Friend, I Also Said That If I Dont Have This BING BANG Theory Design Pro Tools Then Its Not
Make any defrance in my work. its good for that who have no technical knoledge related to devloping or finding the correct way and make something that realy works and waiting for new realese when new technology or new drives comes in market for their work. :)
making ourself strong and batter is the perfect way, dependant on anything is definatly downtime.
friend hddguy u r right and ya if michelle shumaker drive kio its defrant things but if kio owner get the ferrari then there is no big defrance between ferrari and kio lol

And Ya For
You dont need support, or video demonstrations or proof of concept, you need good technique and some basic knowledge.

They Say Any One Can Easily Do Head Replcements Bcoz Of They Uniq And Userfriendy Technic And Design And No Need Any Training And All.

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 Post subject: Re: About Nikola's (hddsurgery) tools
PostPosted: October 29th, 2013, 11:53 
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jignesh wrote:
hddguy wrote:
Success is not dependant on the tool specifically, but the person using it. If I use the tool on a drive with bad heads, there is a very good chance it will work. If I give the same tool to my 7 year old son, it will fail.

You dont need support, or video demonstrations or proof of concept, you need good technique and some basic knowledge.

If anyone gets just 10% success with or without this tool, then the problem is definitely related to human error.

The tool works well, anyone with the tools can vouch for it, and this goes further than a video demonstration ever can


Dear Friend Hddguy

Definatly True That You Said I Am 100% Agree With You My Friend, I Also Said That If I Dont Have This BING BANG Theory Design Pro Tools Then Its Not
Make any defrance in my work. its good for that who have no technical knoledge related to devloping or finding the correct way and make something that realy works and waiting for new realese when new technology or new drives comes in market for their work. :)
making ourself strong and batter is the perfect way, dependant on anything is definatly downtime.
friend hddguy u r right and ya if michelle shumaker drive kio its defrant things but if kio owner get the ferrari then there is no big defrance between ferrari and kio lol

And Ya For
You dont need support, or video demonstrations or proof of concept, you need good technique and some basic knowledge.

They Say Any One Can Easily Do Head Replcements Bcoz Of They Uniq And Userfriendy Technic And Design And No Need Any Training And All.
And Ya When We Are Purchasing This Pro Tools We Have To Rights To Ask Everything About Pro Tools, This Pro Tools Price Too High So If We Buy This Price Tools Then Why We have no right to ask about anything related to quality,work,accuracy, and finaly complet testing result.

Sorry For My Bad English.

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 Post subject: Re: About Nikola's (hddsurgery) tools
PostPosted: October 30th, 2013, 8:55 
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I think data recovery is about minimizing mistakes along the way (of course, the goal is no mistakes and specialists have mastered it). When a person/company creates or develops a tools/techniques that is specifically designed with the goal of minimizing mistakes is the very factor that makes a tool better than other. I believe HDDSurgery's design focuses on minimizing mistakes/damage, hence why they are great tools.

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 Post subject: Re: About Nikola's (hddsurgery) tools
PostPosted: October 30th, 2013, 9:39 
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Great tools from Nikola ! Every data recovery company must have them ! I mean for proffesionals - other can continue using toothpicks as well


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 Post subject: Re: About Nikola's (hddsurgery) tools
PostPosted: October 30th, 2013, 10:41 
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labtech wrote:
I think data recovery is about minimizing mistakes along the way (of course, the goal is no mistakes and specialists have mastered it). When a person/company creates or develops a tools/techniques that is specifically designed with the goal of minimizing mistakes is the very factor that makes a tool better than other. I believe HDDSurgery's design focuses on minimizing mistakes/damage, hence why they are great tools.


Dear Sir Labtech

Sir Definatly U R Right 100% ur thinking is also good. and sir
If Some One Comes With Very Good And Batter Tools And Design With The Complet Support with successfully tansplant head video with the finaly show the result that drive detected and head replcement is successfully done and tool working good tools correctly done work.
and they available in very good price then what u said ?. just avoid others and comparison with other tools and show half result and then say that this is good and this is bad is not correct.
i just say that.

thank you sir for ur participation and talk in this thread.

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 Post subject: Re: About Nikola's (hddsurgery) tools
PostPosted: October 30th, 2013, 10:47 
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velkoo wrote:
Great tools from Nikola ! Every data recovery company must have them ! I mean for proffesionals - other can continue using toothpicks as well


Dear Sir Velkoo

Thank You For Ur Reply
Enjoy With You PRO Tools and that type of thinking its make u dependent on something good marketing products just.
but good marketing and complet product are defrant things.
only that proffesional have this tools they dont have own technic or dont know about any machnicle work and Dont Have Any Skill To made any good design solutions.
they are just like robot that all time doing tipical programed work. why they desigen for.
and then tipical solution not axist then retuen error code this is unknown and leave.

sorry for my bad english

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 Post subject: Re: About Nikola's (hddsurgery) tools
PostPosted: October 30th, 2013, 11:42 
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jignesh wrote:
velkoo wrote:
Great tools from Nikola ! Every data recovery company must have them ! I mean for proffesionals - other can continue using toothpicks as well


Dear Sir Velkoo

Thank You For Ur Reply
Enjoy With You PRO Tools and that type of thinking its make u dependent on something good marketing products just.
but good marketing and complet product are defrant things.
only that proffesional have this tools they dont have own technic or dont know about any machnicle work and Dont Have Any Skill To made any good design solutions.
they are just like robot that all time doing tipical programed work. why they desigen for.
and then tipical solution not axist then retuen error code this is unknown and leave.

sorry for my bad english

yours friend
jignesh pankhania


I don`t mean to offend nobody . It`s just the facts . I don`t get your point really ... what you mean by this posts ? I have 5-10 HDDs daily for data recovery . 99% are routine cases and 1% needs special approach . Perfect made tools are mendatory for this job - no more , no less. Nikola is very accurate and responsible guy - he leaves several tools and don`t produce them because hi is not sure that they are 100% what he expect . Invest lots of money and than leave project is sign of something ;) I trust his tools - and i know that they are PERFECT .


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 Post subject: Re: About Nikola's (hddsurgery) tools
PostPosted: November 1st, 2013, 9:25 
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jignesh wrote:
labtech wrote:
I think data recovery is about minimizing mistakes along the way (of course, the goal is no mistakes and specialists have mastered it). When a person/company creates or develops a tools/techniques that is specifically designed with the goal of minimizing mistakes is the very factor that makes a tool better than other. I believe HDDSurgery's design focuses on minimizing mistakes/damage, hence why they are great tools.


Dear Sir Labtech

Sir Definatly U R Right 100% ur thinking is also good. and sir
If Some One Comes With Very Good And Batter Tools And Design With The Complet Support with successfully tansplant head video with the finaly show the result that drive detected and head replcement is successfully done and tool working good tools correctly done work.
and they available in very good price then what u said ?. just avoid others and comparison with other tools and show half result and then say that this is good and this is bad is not correct.
i just say that.

thank you sir for ur participation and talk in this thread.

yours friend
jignesh pankhania

You are now going totaly wrong direction.
I do not want to affend you , but withouth pc3k in your hands you can not do 20% of things you can do with it.
All of us know that, if you do not have it you do not even see difference.
All other disputes are not possibile if you stand on it, that you do not need any pro tools.
You write your own soft for every case?
Make Your own tool for bearing replacements?
Bravo, we others need tools. In right hands they do magic!

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 Post subject: Re: About Nikola's (hddsurgery) tools
PostPosted: November 8th, 2013, 2:55 
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helpdisc wrote:
jignesh wrote:
labtech wrote:
I think data recovery is about minimizing mistakes along the way (of course, the goal is no mistakes and specialists have mastered it). When a person/company creates or develops a tools/techniques that is specifically designed with the goal of minimizing mistakes is the very factor that makes a tool better than other. I believe HDDSurgery's design focuses on minimizing mistakes/damage, hence why they are great tools.


Dear Sir Labtech

Sir Definatly U R Right 100% ur thinking is also good. and sir
If Some One Comes With Very Good And Batter Tools And Design With The Complet Support with successfully tansplant head video with the finaly show the result that drive detected and head replcement is successfully done and tool working good tools correctly done work.
and they available in very good price then what u said ?. just avoid others and comparison with other tools and show half result and then say that this is good and this is bad is not correct.
i just say that.

thank you sir for ur participation and talk in this thread.

yours friend
jignesh pankhania

You are now going totaly wrong direction.
I do not want to affend you , but withouth pc3k in your hands you can not do 20% of things you can do with it.
All of us know that, if you do not have it you do not even see difference.
All other disputes are not possibile if you stand on it, that you do not need any pro tools.
You write your own soft for every case?
Make Your own tool for bearing replacements?
Bravo, we others need tools. In right hands they do magic!


Dear sir Helpdesk

I Tell Many Times That I Dont Have pc3000udma or any other PRO TOOL and also comes and see my case management book how many case i leave. see urself i have my case book open for u all with all details.
and case studies that i am wrote regulerly by drive make,family, and all other info with completed finaly solution step by step.
data recovery only possible with pc3000udma its totaly wrong.
and also i dont have ur pro tools and i dont loss any physical cases also.
sometime i leave cases that very damaged platters and in this problems what pro tool help ?.
but sir definaly i will buy ur 1 pro tool pair and i give compare it with my cheap design tool and also with other tools that available in market i have ordered that plastic tool and also place order for ur 1 pair of pro tools.
and finaly post here full video with head replcement and hard disk detection and working result.
i am using 2 brand new disk for this TEST.
right now here in india our big festival is running DIWALI and NEW YEAR so i am bussy with my family in this festivals when its done and i am start work regulerly i will do it and post the COMPLET comparision chart.

thank you for ur reply sir helpdesk.


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 Post subject: Re: About Nikola's (hddsurgery) tools
PostPosted: November 8th, 2013, 3:56 
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it is helpdisc not helpdesk my friend.
You can test of course, but you can keep in mind that proffesionals have been using them, not testing them for 5 years already.
If You have something else to say plz send on private so we will not spam the topic anymore.
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 Post subject: Re: About Nikola's (hddsurgery) tools
PostPosted: November 8th, 2013, 10:34 
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helpdisc wrote:
it is helpdisc not helpdesk my friend.
You can test of course, but you can keep in mind that proffesionals have been using them, not testing them for 5 years already.
If You have something else to say plz send on private so we will not spam the topic anymore.
Thank you


Dear Sir HelpDisk

sorry its speling mistaq bcoz my english is not well and good.
definatly i pm if any quary and definatly i try it and compared it with all other tools and technics if realy i find the great result from quality acuracy and by price i will post all above testing result with complet comparison videos here and also give advice to buy ur products if i realy find that is realy defrent then what i think.

again sorry for my bad english

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 Post subject: Re: About Nikola's (hddsurgery) tools
PostPosted: November 8th, 2013, 19:38 
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It is helpdisc not HelpDisk, and you don't need good English, you can copy/paste.

At some stage you need to stop worrying about all the different tools out there and trying to match up features, stop trying to compare features, stop worrying about IFs and Maybes, and just get the best tools you can afford and learn to use them.

If you think you don't need tools to help you, that's fine as well. I am sure most people would love to see tutorials and videos of what a skilled repairer can do without all these expensive tools.

There is an old saying that applies: "Don't sweat the small stuff".


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 Post subject: Re: About Nikola's (hddsurgery) tools
PostPosted: December 17th, 2013, 7:08 
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velkoo wrote:
I don`t mean to offend nobody . It`s just the facts . I don`t get your point really ... what you mean by this posts ? I have 5-10 HDDs daily for data recovery . 99% are routine cases and 1% needs special approach . Perfect made tools are mendatory for this job - no more , no less. Nikola is very accurate and responsible guy - he leaves several tools and don`t produce them because hi is not sure that they are 100% what he expect . Invest lots of money and than leave project is sign of something ;) I trust his tools - and i know that they are PERFECT .


Totally agreed..
Good work by HDDSurgery..


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 Post subject: Re: About Nikola's (hddsurgery) tools
PostPosted: March 19th, 2014, 4:50 
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Hi,

sorry, i did not have time to read through all the posts, but i have an overal impression about it.

my experience: Nikola's tools are well designed and wear the signs of excellent manufacturing. Yes, it is possible to do DR without such tool, but it is a great help in a good, professional DR technician/engineer's hand. For doing something on the highest level one needs high end instrumentation and tools, and these ones are exactly that. I personally do not want to save every penny on tooling, i like these (and my other) gadgets in the way people like a good car :)
DR gives you enough suck and surprises anyway, so it is rather good idea to save yourself from unneccessary sucking by using good instruments.

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