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 Post subject: MRT vs SEDIV
PostPosted: March 18th, 2017, 11:07 
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Hello Iam looking to buy MRT pro but wasn't sure if Sediv would be an better option :?: will be for use with data recovery..sorry if this is the wrong spot to post this thank you all.


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 Post subject: Re: MRT vs SEDIV
PostPosted: March 18th, 2017, 12:30 
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SeDiv doesn't have HARDWARE support. SeDiv doesn't have CLONING/IMAGING facility and it doesn't have support for MAXTOR and FUJITSU.

Also SeDiv is very pricy right now and have some implemented "functions" that might cause you problems like a STUPID function that will kill your browser if you attempt to visit sites of other firmware tools makers like WDMarvel, and even visiting my forum like the HRT or DFL section with SeDiv on will kill your browser. Also SeDiv will run only on win XP or 7 and requires a specific screen resolution to run properly, otherwise you will not be able to see the full options/menus.

MRT on the other hand is very buggy. Many functions that work fine on SeDiv will NOT WORK AT ALL on MRT.

So ...

Idealy you would get PC-3000. Lacking that i would say buy as many tools as you can get ?

For example for WD drives WDMarvel might be the best choice. For Samsung you can try SHT/SHTR....

MRT have advantages but it's buggy.

SeDiv have functions that really work and no other tool have.

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 Post subject: Re: MRT vs SEDIV
PostPosted: March 18th, 2017, 13:23 
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What exact purpose with regard to data recovery do inquire concerning those two tools? If you don't have a solid hardware imager, I recommend focusing on that first, rather than focusing on the advanced repair/refurbish functionality of tools like sediv.

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 Post subject: Re: MRT vs SEDIV
PostPosted: March 18th, 2017, 14:44 
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Thank you very much Spildit!..looking forward to more of your post!...and labtech the exact purpose for the two tools repairing non functional drive for data recovery..i picked the two because of cost both close starting point.


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 Post subject: Re: MRT vs SEDIV
PostPosted: March 18th, 2017, 15:20 
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quiksilver4730 wrote:
Thank you very much Spildit!..looking forward to more of your post!...and labtech the exact purpose for the two tools repairing non functional drive for data recovery..i picked the two because of cost both close starting point.


I would go for MRT then because it have data extractor/hardware cloning/imaging facility and can clone/image by head map, etc ...

Then if you need later some other tool to fix firmware problems or refurb drives you can buy SeDiv.

SeDiv have a very nice library (encrypted for it) of Samsung BURN IN files and WD factory firmware that you can use to refurb drives but all data will be lost.

If your main goal is to do data recovery then you need something to image/clone the drives first, and extract the data.

Options like PC-3000 DE, and MRT DE should be just fine. You can also buy DDI4 with network add on. If you can find something like an old HRT 5.0 UDMA wih DRE you can use that to clone with head maps as well but it's very outdated tool and most likely you will not be able to find any used unit for sale anyway.

Other options are DFL tools and even Data Compass from SD but most likely it will not work on drives bigger then 2 or 3 TB ....

So yes, MRT sounds the best choice for what you want for the range of price that it have.

Also you can get something more specific to fix a particular drive firmware like WDMarvel, SHT, etc if you encounter the need of a tool like that.

SeDiv doesn't have option to clone/extract data.

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 Post subject: Re: MRT vs SEDIV
PostPosted: March 18th, 2017, 15:48 
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Good to know maybe SeDiv will work there bugs out but if they continuous increase price with out resolving simple issues "Even with updates" i will hold off..Once again thank you Spildit for your wealth of information and motivation and kindness!!


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 Post subject: Re: MRT vs SEDIV
PostPosted: March 18th, 2017, 16:04 
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To be honest, you'll make more money with the PC-3000 despite the much higher cost. Although you can limp by with one of those systems, you'll solve a lot more cases with the PC-3000 and ultimately get an even better return on investment.

If you absolutely can't afford to get a PC-3000, then I'd say go for the MRT since it's a bit more rounded out solution than the other budget alternatives.

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 Post subject: Re: MRT vs SEDIV
PostPosted: March 18th, 2017, 16:13 
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quiksilver4730 wrote:
Good to know maybe SeDiv will work there bugs out but if they continuous increase price with out resolving simple issues "Even with updates" i will hold off..Once again thank you Spildit for your wealth of information and motivation and kindness!!


The majority of my complains/problems with SeDiv are NOT BUGS but STUPID BEHAVIOUR implemented by the author that is silly, childish and serves no real purpose.

In other words, it would be understandable that SeDiv would close itself down or close the other application if you were to use a real time debugger or "ATA sniffer" or something that could steal SeDiv code or attempt to crack it or defeat the license system. This would be 100% understandable ! Closing down WDMarvel for example and even close down whatever browser you use (IE, Firefox, etc) just because you are attempting to browse WDMarvel forum or any other place with links to it, or DFL, or HRT is just plain childish from the part of the author that because he doesn't like other tools he just do this childish stupid stuff.

SeDiv killing itself down if you open Media Player Classic it's another amazingly annoying and stupid thing regarding SeDiv. For example i was attempting to run AUTO ARCO on a Denali WD drive and while waiting (it can take days) i opened a video file on the SeDiv machine, Media player classic made SeDiv to close down (after one day of auto arco) and i had to start over (with WDMarvel as I was pissed off with SeDiv).

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Other thing, if you are using a modern widescreen LCD/LED display you might not have the necessary resolution available in order for you to see the entire SeDiv menus !!!!

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 Post subject: Re: MRT vs SEDIV
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To be honest, you'll make more money with the PC-3000 despite the much higher cost. Although you can limp by with one of those systems, you'll solve a lot more cases with the PC-3000 and ultimately get an even better return on investment.

If you absolutely can't afford to get a PC-3000, then I'd say go for the MRT since it's a bit more rounded out solution than the other budget alternatives.


Yes, agree !!!

Also SeDiv can't decrypt WD drives, etc .... It's just for Firmware repair and refurb, NOT for data extraction.

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 Post subject: Re: MRT vs SEDIV
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Thank you for your response Data-medics..There is no doubt at all that pc-3000 is an much more reliable tool but the cost is just to much for the time being..Thought getting by with MRT for the time being then moving to pc-3000 with more time and experience...bad idea?


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 Post subject: Re: MRT vs SEDIV
PostPosted: March 18th, 2017, 16:16 
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quiksilver4730 wrote:
Thank you for your response Data-medics..There is no doubt at all that pc-3000 is an much more reliable tool but the cost is just to much for the time being..Thought getting by with MRT for the time being then moving to pc-3000 with more time and experience...bad idea?


Very good idea !

You can even get MRT online version instead of full off line version and if you decide that firmware fixing/recovering data is not for you after all your loss will not be very big. The same if you decide to buy PC3K a short while.

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 Post subject: Re: MRT vs SEDIV
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So as far as data recovery there isnt many issues with firmware preventing DE?..i thought that it would be a normal case.. sorry!


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 Post subject: Re: MRT vs SEDIV
PostPosted: March 18th, 2017, 19:43 
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quiksilver4730 wrote:
So as far as data recovery there isnt many issues with firmware preventing DE?..i thought that it would be a normal case.. sorry!

There are. However, there is a fairly major difference between dealing with firmware for refurbishing vs stabilizing a drive for imaging.

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 Post subject: Re: MRT vs SEDIV
PostPosted: March 18th, 2017, 20:25 
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quiksilver4730 wrote:
Thank you for your response Data-medics..There is no doubt at all that pc-3000 is an much more reliable tool but the cost is just to much for the time being..Thought getting by with MRT for the time being then moving to pc-3000 with more time and experience...bad idea?


A good DR tech can easily make back what 1 PC3000 unit costs in about 10 to 20 jobs depending on your rate. In my opinion MRT/SEDIV/DFL are much more expensive as they will always be outdated and cost you more money with lost jobs. Your not really considering the lost revenue when the cheaper tool can't handle what the higher priced tool can.

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 Post subject: Re: MRT vs SEDIV
PostPosted: March 18th, 2017, 21:25 
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pc3000 is outdated but still the best u can buy on the market...
with all its flaws and voids.

neither tool will make you able to handle ALL the cases, you gotta be smart to do what tools cannot do.
to be honest i do not know what other tools can do, but know that pc3k can do what a dr engineer meets every day.
you can start buying others, but you will end up with a pc3k sooner or later.
And in that moment the other tools will be lost money.
Perhaps not entirely coz u can do some imaging on the mrt, but generally yes.

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 Post subject: Re: MRT vs SEDIV
PostPosted: March 19th, 2017, 8:08 
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MRT online is a good option to test the waters with minimal investment. But, PC3000 needs to be in your budget if you choose to be serious about data recovery.

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 Post subject: Re: MRT vs SEDIV
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Spildit,


Hi Spildit,

Dear Friend,

please give me your email address.
i want talk with you.

this is my one - daminda2000@gmail.com


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 Post subject: Re: MRT vs SEDIV
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damindaniroshana wrote:
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Hi Spildit,

Dear Friend,

please give me your email address.
i want talk with you.

this is my one - daminda2000@gmail.com


Hi there !!!

I did recieve one e-mail from you alread so you do have my e-mail !!!

I will reply to it shortly but i did already replyed to your PM as well ...

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