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 Post subject: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0
PostPosted: June 29th, 2017, 11:32 
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Hello!
I have received the drive in topic (WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0 - FireBird - 2060-771801-002) with completely fried ROM and 2 missing legs. :)

I have connected ROM IC to programmer but unfortunately, all I get in hex is (FF).
I have tried several ROM's and LDR's but no luck. No access to SA to determine the correct version of original ROM.

Any suggestions would be highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0
PostPosted: June 29th, 2017, 13:58 
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unknown wrote:
Hello!
I have received the drive in topic (WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0 - FireBird - 2060-771801-002) with completely fried ROM and 2 missing legs. :)

I have connected ROM IC to programmer but unfortunately, all I get in hex is (FF).
I have tried several ROM's and LDR's but no luck. No access to SA to determine the correct version of original ROM.

Any suggestions would be highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.


Firebird have unique data in ROM in module 4F, so you'll need the original ROM.

Maybe someone can access the damaged ROM. I very much doubt it's "fried", more like someone tried to switch it to another PCB and broke it :-(

I suggest you contact Allan in Denmark - user "digisupport"

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0
PostPosted: June 29th, 2017, 14:11 
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pcimage wrote:
I very much doubt it's "fried", more like someone tried to switch it to another PCB and broke it

Yes that's what happened as the customer told me :(
Thanks for reply Mr. Sean.


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0
PostPosted: June 29th, 2017, 16:55 
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Here's the drive front label.


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0
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Better to contact user Spildit, it is not a problem for him at all.

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0
PostPosted: July 1st, 2017, 15:05 
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Spildit wrote:
Martin wrote:
Better to contact user Spildit, it is not a problem for him at all.


It is a problem.

Firebird have unique data in ROM in module 4F as stated.

Also if you have external ROM then there are no copy of ROM modules and 4F on platter.

You may want to try "hot swap" but most likely it will not work as well ...

Maybe you should try some more combinations of ROM/Module 11 and pray ?

Thanks for the reply. :)
I am keeping try several ROM's and LDR's. :)


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0
PostPosted: July 2nd, 2017, 2:55 
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Post a picture of your damaged rom chip. Many "slaughtered" chips can still be accessed.

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0
PostPosted: July 2nd, 2017, 9:09 
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The guy applied too much heat already


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0
PostPosted: July 2nd, 2017, 12:46 
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Wow, too much heat indeed!

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0
PostPosted: July 2nd, 2017, 13:00 
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And that kids, is why you never use a flamethrower to remove a ROM chip :lol:

This is exactly what's wrong with people doing DIY recovery.

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0
PostPosted: July 2nd, 2017, 14:38 
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pcimage wrote:
Wow, too much heat indeed!

I told you :)

data-medics wrote:
And that kids, is why you never use a flamethrower to remove a ROM chip :lol:

This is exactly what's wrong with people doing DIY recovery.

I don't know if the customer did it by himself or someone else really did it. :)


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0
PostPosted: July 2nd, 2017, 15:01 
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unknown wrote:
pcimage wrote:
Wow, too much heat indeed!

I told you :)

data-medics wrote:
And that kids, is why you never use a flamethrower to remove a ROM chip :lol:

This is exactly what's wrong with people doing DIY recovery.

I don't know if the customer did it by himself or someone else really did it. :)


There is another way to get info. Does not always work but is possible

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0
PostPosted: July 2nd, 2017, 15:11 
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Spildit wrote:
Did you try hot swap ?

Any luck ?

Unfortunately, I don't have a matched donor


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0
PostPosted: July 2nd, 2017, 15:12 
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scratchy wrote:
unknown wrote:
pcimage wrote:
Wow, too much heat indeed!

I told you :)

data-medics wrote:
And that kids, is why you never use a flamethrower to remove a ROM chip :lol:

This is exactly what's wrong with people doing DIY recovery.

I don't know if the customer did it by himself or someone else really did it. :)


There is another way to get info. Does not always work but is possible

Can you please share it?


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0
PostPosted: July 2nd, 2017, 20:51 
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unknown wrote:
I am keeping try several ROM's and LDR's. :)

Could you upload your collection of ROMs or 4F modules? I'm curious as to how they differ from other families.

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0
PostPosted: July 3rd, 2017, 3:38 
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unknown wrote:
The guy applied too much heat already


Auch, reading out that one is not an option any more.

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0
PostPosted: July 3rd, 2017, 4:20 
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List here the ROM ver.`s you tried and did not work
to avoid sending the same files back

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0
PostPosted: July 3rd, 2017, 7:33 
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einstein9 wrote:
List here the ROM ver.`s you tried and did not work
to avoid sending the same files back

Thanks for trying to help my friend. :)
Here we go:
00030078
00030080
00030052
00030038
00030044
0003004A
0003001U
0003003V
0003006G
With matched loader for every LDR. (with/without SA Blocked)

digisupport wrote:
unknown wrote:
The guy applied too much heat already


Auch, reading out that one is not an option any more.

Unfortunately. :( ( all I get for every time trying to read anything is FF)

fzabkar wrote:
unknown wrote:
I am keeping try several ROM's and LDR's. :)

Could you upload your collection of ROMs or 4F modules? I'm curious as to how they differ from other families.

Thanks for trying to help Mr. Frank.


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0
PostPosted: July 3rd, 2017, 10:30 
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Recovering adaptives on those is PITA.
It is possible and I have done it before but it is so not economically feasible for me that I gave up on those.
There is at least one guy here who could it do it faster then me if he would be interested he would probably ping you.

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVW-11S5XS0
PostPosted: July 3rd, 2017, 15:44 
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I can see blocks of adaptives (little-endian). Perhaps one could collate the adaptive data from several ROMs and then determine average values for each set. It shouldn't be too difficult to write a tool to automate this process.

WD10JPVT-75A1YT0, module 4F, ver 00030038, 4 heads

Code:
Offset(h) 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F

00000040                    52 48 04 00 C2 22 49 23 9C 23
00000050  61 23 00 00 00 00

22C2
2349
239C
2361
0000
0000

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Offset(h) 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F

00000050                    55 AA 04 00 CB 07 20 D3 28 FF
00000060  0D FD 24 00 43 00 36 00 D6 FF 12 00 E5 FF 0F FE
00000070  57 D9 3F 00 15 FC F8 FF 28 00 1E 00 DC FF EC FF
00000080  27 00 95 07 21 DE 0A FF 80 FC 0F 00 54 00 AC FF
00000090  0A 00 EC FF EA FF CA FA 89 DC 24 00 CA FB FE FF
000000A0  10 00 EC FF EB FF 17 00 0F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
000000B0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
000000C0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
000000D0  00 00

CB0720D3 28FF0DFD 24004300 3600D6FF 1200E5FF
0FFE57D9 3F0015FC F8FF2800 1E00DCFF ECFF2700
950721DE 0AFF80FC 0F005400 ACFF0A00 ECFFEAFF
CAFA89DC 2400CAFB FEFF1000 ECFFEBFF 17000F00
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000

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Offset(h) 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F

000000D0        03 80 80 AA D8 0E 37 01 D8 0E 37 01 D8 0E
000000E0  37 01 D8 0E 37 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
000000F0  00 00 00 00 00 00 4C 13 37 01 4C 13 37 01 4C 13
00000100  37 01 4C 13 37 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00000110  00 00 00 00 00 00 BA 2C 37 02 88 2C 37 00 88 2C
00000120  37 00 24 2C 37 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00000130  00 00 00 00 00 00 8D 27 37 01 8D 27 37 01 8D 27
00000140  37 01 8D 27 37 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00000150  00 00 00 00 00 00 5C 2B 37 02 3E 2B 37 01 3E 2B
00000160  37 01 99 2A 37 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
........
000001F0  00 00 00 00 00 00

D80E3701 D80E3701 D80E3701 D80E3701 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
4C133701 4C133701 4C133701 4C133701 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
BA2C3702 882C3700 882C3700 242C3701 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
8D273701 8D273701 8D273701 8D273702 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
5C2B3702 3E2B3701 3E2B3701 992A3702 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000

Code:
Offset(h) 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F

000001F0                    00 00 90 AA 00 00 77 92 C0 FF
00000200  6B D8 AF FF 7F 00 C0 FF DF 2A B4 FF 00 00 00 00
00000210  00 00 00 00 D4 3B B3 01 D3 7F AA 01 E1 B9 B8 01
00000220  57 E1 AB 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

7792C0FF 6BD8AFFF 7F00C0FF DF2AB4FF 00000000 00000000
D43BB301 D37FAA01 E1B9B801 57E1AB01 00000000 00000000

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