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 Post subject: Seagate 4 TB backup plus not being detected
PostPosted: July 30th, 2017, 12:19 
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I bought a seagate Backup Plus 4 tb portable

It stopped suddenly and is not showing any drive letter or is not detected with disk management tool

how ever it is appearing on device manager as

Seagate Backup+ SCSI Disk Device

it shows following events:
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Device SCSI\Disk&Ven_Seagate&Prod_BACKUP+\000000 could not be migrated.

Last Device Instance Id: SCSI\Disk&Ven_Ricoh&Prod_SD/MMCStorage&Rev_3.30\0001
Class Guid: {4D36E967-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
Location Path:
Migration Rank: 0xF000FC000000F122
Present: false
Status: 0xC0000719
Device SCSI\Disk&Ven_Seagate&Prod_BACKUP+\000000 was configured.

Driver Name: disk.inf
Class Guid: {4D36E967-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
Driver Date: 06/21/2006
Driver Version: 10.0.15063.0
Driver Provider: Microsoft
Driver Section: disk_install.NT
Driver Rank: 0xFF0005
Matching Device Id: GenDisk
Outranked Drivers:
Device Updated: false
Parent Device: USB\VID_0BC2&PID_AB28\MSFT3007CA5523B2QB
Device SCSI\Disk&Ven_Seagate&Prod_BACKUP+\000000 was started.

Driver Name: disk.inf
Class Guid: {4D36E967-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
Service: disk
Lower Filters:
Upper Filters:




I had tried it in different OS all the same
Tried in Ubuntu, Mac, Linux Lite and windows

I tried changing PCB board and swapping SATA controller with portable adapter but no change.
How can i recover my drive.

Visited some professionals who were not able to identify problem advised PCB changing but it had same error


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 4 TB backup plus not being detected
PostPosted: July 30th, 2017, 20:29 
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I tried changing PCB board and swapping SATA controller with portable adapter

Could you elaborate? With photos?

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 4 TB backup plus not being detected
PostPosted: July 31st, 2017, 8:55 
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fzabkar wrote:
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I tried changing PCB board and swapping SATA controller with portable adapter

Could you elaborate? With photos?


I thought there is problem in builtin SATA to USB bridge in my portable hard drive, so i changed the adapter but error was same, it was being detected but no drive was shown in any disk management software.
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Then i got another PCB board imported as it was not available in karachi and changed it from native.
the drive was detected and shown in device manager as previous with same error

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 4 TB backup plus not being detected
PostPosted: July 31st, 2017, 14:22 
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Check to see if model uses shingled recording if so you may found your problem

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 4 TB backup plus not being detected
PostPosted: July 31st, 2017, 18:06 
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If you connect the drive directly to a SATA port on your motherboard, does it report a strange model number or capacity? Does it make any bad sounds?

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 4 TB backup plus not being detected
PostPosted: August 1st, 2017, 7:12 
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scratchy wrote:
Check to see if model uses shingled recording if so you may found your problem



I am unable to find if my hard drive is SMR or PMR, some website says its neither pure SMR nor pure PMR.
Probably PMR

STDR4000100
Regulatory model: SR00F1
PN: 1K9AAC-570
SN: NA7PBHSV



fzabkar wrote:
If you connect the drive directly to a SATA port on your motherboard, does it report a strange model number or capacity? Does it make any bad sounds?


It shows USB mass storage device with yellow triangle in device manager
I will paste the events here

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Device USB\VID_174C&PID_5106\6&27b3086a&0&2 could not be migrated.

Last Device Instance Id: USB\VID_0000&PID_0002\6&27af724&0&2
Class Guid: {36FC9E60-C465-11CF-8056-444553540000}
Location Path: PCIROOT(0)#PCI(1D00)#USBROOT(0)#USB(1)#USB(2)
Migration Rank: 0xF000FFFFFFFF0002
Present: false
Status: 0xC0000719

Device USB\VID_174C&PID_5106\6&27b3086a&0&2 was configured.

Driver Name: usbstor.inf
Class Guid: {36FC9E60-C465-11CF-8056-444553540000}
Driver Date: 06/21/2006
Driver Version: 10.0.15063.0
Driver Provider: Microsoft
Driver Section: USBSTOR_BULK.NT
Driver Rank: 0xFF2000
Matching Device Id: USB\Class_08&SubClass_06&Prot_50
Outranked Drivers:
Device Updated: false
Parent Device: USB\VID_8087&PID_0024\5&196794a3&4&1

Device USB\VID_174C&PID_5106\6&27b3086a&0&2 had a problem starting.

Driver Name: usbstor.inf
Class Guid: {36FC9E60-C465-11CF-8056-444553540000}
Service: USBSTOR
Lower Filters:
Upper Filters:
Problem: 0xA
Problem Status: 0xC0000001



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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 4 TB backup plus not being detected
PostPosted: August 1st, 2017, 19:25 
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fzabkar wrote:
If you connect the drive directly to a SATA port on your motherboard, does it report a strange model number or capacity? Does it make any bad sounds?


It shows USB mass storage device with yellow triangle in device manager
I will paste the events here



But if you connect only the drive to a sata port, not using the usb adapter ? Does the computer recognizes something ? With which names ?


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 4 TB backup plus not being detected
PostPosted: August 3rd, 2017, 7:18 
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rogfanther wrote:
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fzabkar wrote:
If you connect the drive directly to a SATA port on your motherboard, does it report a strange model number or capacity? Does it make any bad sounds?


It shows USB mass storage device with yellow triangle in device manager
I will paste the events here



But if you connect only the drive to a sata port, not using the usb adapter ? Does the computer recognizes something ? With which names ?


Unfortunately i have laptop, i know none who has PC, although i dismantled my laptop and directly connected hard drive to SATA port and ran Ubuntu via USB, it did not detect hard drive, ran different commands but could not find hard drive.


I guess hard drive is best detected in USB 2.0 port with built in SATA to USB adapter.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 4 TB backup plus not being detected
PostPosted: October 23rd, 2017, 11:51 
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I have same problem like this i'm going to replace PCB . but I'm worry when i see your post it didn't work . So how did you solve it ?


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 4 TB backup plus not being detected
PostPosted: October 23rd, 2017, 13:29 
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These 4 TB Seagate BarraCuda are coming in regular now, most of them I have worked on where ST4000LM024. So a nice mix up of SMR, MTC and PMR.
A pain in the "bip" to work on. PCB change will not bring your data back, sorry. If data is important seek pro assistance.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 4 TB backup plus not being detected
PostPosted: October 23rd, 2017, 18:47 
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Freddy Lynn wrote:
I have same problem like this i'm going to replace PCB . but I'm worry when i see your post it didn't work . So how did you solve it ?


I could not resolve this, waiting for a response


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 4 TB backup plus not being detected
PostPosted: October 23rd, 2017, 19:17 
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ahub1988 wrote:
waiting for a response

what response are you waiting for ?
the forum members are waiting for a respond from you!
fzabkar wrote:
If you connect the drive directly to a SATA port on your motherboard, does it report a strange model number or capacity? Does it make any bad sounds?

and then @rogfanther asked again
rogfanther wrote:
But if you connect only the drive to a sata port, not using the usb adapter ? Does the computer recognizes something ? With which names ?

so to summarize
@fzabkar asked you
1. what happens if you connect it directly to SATA
2. Does it make any bad sounds

@rogfanther asked you:
what happens if you connect the HDD directly to SATA
but you didnt answered the questions
you only said:
ahub1988 wrote:
Unfortunately i have laptop, i know none who has PC


So... if you want proper answers and advice, YOU should follow what the highly skilled PROs in here are saying

then this is what you supposed to do
find a PC, connect the HDD to it and answer the question
1. what happens if you connect it directly to SATA
2. Does it make any bad sounds
3. (1 of my own) show the terminal log
is it so hard ?


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 4 TB backup plus not being detected
PostPosted: October 23rd, 2017, 19:21 
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Unfortunately i have laptop, i know none who has PC, although i dismantled my laptop and directly connected hard drive to SATA port and ran Ubuntu via USB, it did not detect hard drive, ran different commands but could not find hard drive.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 4 TB backup plus not being detected
PostPosted: October 23rd, 2017, 19:33 
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HaQue wrote:
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Unfortunately i have laptop, i know none who has PC, although i dismantled my laptop and directly connected hard drive to SATA port and ran Ubuntu via USB, it did not detect hard drive, ran different commands but could not find hard drive.

ye, and what about 2 and 3
jermy wrote:
2. Does it make any bad sounds
3. (1 of my own) show the terminal log


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 4 TB backup plus not being detected
PostPosted: October 23rd, 2017, 20:12 
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May I add a

4. Pics from the component side of the original board, please.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 4 TB backup plus not being detected
PostPosted: October 24th, 2017, 1:01 
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jermy wrote:
ahub1988 wrote:
waiting for a response

what response are you waiting for ?
the forum members are waiting for a respond from you!
fzabkar wrote:
If you connect the drive directly to a SATA port on your motherboard, does it report a strange model number or capacity? Does it make any bad sounds?

and then @rogfanther asked again
rogfanther wrote:
But if you connect only the drive to a sata port, not using the usb adapter ? Does the computer recognizes something ? With which names ?

so to summarize
@fzabkar asked you
1. what happens if you connect it directly to SATA
2. Does it make any bad sounds

@rogfanther asked you:
what happens if you connect the HDD directly to SATA
but you didnt answered the questions
you only said:
ahub1988 wrote:
Unfortunately i have laptop, i know none who has PC


So... if you want proper answers and advice, YOU should follow what the highly skilled PROs in here are saying

then this is what you supposed to do
find a PC, connect the HDD to it and answer the question
1. what happens if you connect it directly to SATA
2. Does it make any bad sounds
3. (1 of my own) show the terminal log
is it so hard ?

First of all , i also have same problem with Seagate 4 T external hard drive.
When i connect directly to SATA, there is still not see in BIOS as port 2 not dected.
2. Hard disk is spining but not with strange sound. Light is on.
Should i change pcb or any firmware problem?
What should i do more for recovery datas from these harddisk.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 4 TB backup plus not being detected
PostPosted: October 24th, 2017, 4:38 
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ahub1988 wrote:
Freddy Lynn wrote:
I have same problem like this i'm going to replace PCB . but I'm worry when i see your post it didn't work . So how did you solve it ?


I could not resolve this, waiting for a response

did you change the PCB with same model same fire ware. One of the forum said it need same Firmware version and if you don't have you might also find in there . but i'm still not get yet.

https://www.pcb-solutions.com
you can order from them and I realized is sometime you have to give your board to them and they will send you back ( I'm not friendly like this.)


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 4 TB backup plus not being detected
PostPosted: October 24th, 2017, 21:01 
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Freddy Lynn wrote:
Should i change pcb

99.9% a waste of time and money
Freddy Lynn wrote:
or any firmware problem?

most likely, and maybe there is more to it

can we see the terminal log ?


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 4 TB backup plus not being detected
PostPosted: October 25th, 2017, 18:20 
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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 4 TB backup plus not being detected
PostPosted: October 25th, 2017, 18:25 
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we need to see the terminal log
not a screenshot from the BIOS


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