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 Post subject: News for Marvel 88ss9189-bld2
PostPosted: September 5th, 2017, 10:33 
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Hi all!

I have here a SanDisk Ultra II

If i atach to Pc3k i get drive DRY, i can ID (model, serial capacity and FW). After that if I try to do anything Get nothing, always BSY.
for example If i try to read secs i get BSY led ON, and can not access to data.

main chip is 88ss9189-bld2

any way in this case?

Thanks in advanced


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 Post subject: Re: News for Marvel 88ss9189-bld2
PostPosted: September 5th, 2017, 13:47 
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Power the drive off, then send the command to image. Does it read any sectors before getting stuck at BSY again?

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 Post subject: Re: News for Marvel 88ss9189-bld2
PostPosted: September 6th, 2017, 8:42 
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lcoughey wrote:
Power the drive off, then send the command to image. Does it read any sectors before getting stuck at BSY again?


Hi luke!
are you speaking about "DD" command on linux to make SSD image?


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 Post subject: Re: News for Marvel 88ss9189-bld2
PostPosted: September 6th, 2017, 9:05 
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Are you not using DE with PC3K? Are you able to give me remote access?

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 Post subject: Re: News for Marvel 88ss9189-bld2
PostPosted: September 7th, 2017, 5:00 
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no, i can not read any sec

as you can see on pic


Thaks


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 Post subject: Re: News for Marvel 88ss9189-bld2
PostPosted: September 7th, 2017, 7:35 
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hhddrec wrote:
Hi all!

I have here a SanDisk Ultra II

If i atach to Pc3k i get drive DRY, i can ID (model, serial capacity and FW). After that if I try to do anything Get nothing, always BSY.
for example If i try to read secs i get BSY led ON, and can not access to data.

main chip is 88ss9189-bld2

any way in this case?

Thanks in advanced


probably "Translator issue"

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 Post subject: Re: News for Marvel 88ss9189-bld2
PostPosted: September 7th, 2017, 14:14 
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yes very probably.
The question now is:

Do you think will be recoverable ussing pc3K for SSD?
any other way to recover translator?


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 Post subject: Re: News for Marvel 88ss9189-bld2
PostPosted: September 7th, 2017, 17:07 
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Is it possible that SanDisk's Translate Sector (87h) ATA command has been retained in their SSD models?

If so, then this may provide a way to test the translator.

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 Post subject: Re: News for Marvel 88ss9189-bld2
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fzabkar wrote:
Is it possible that SanDisk's Translate Sector (87h) ATA command has been retained in their SSD models?

If so, then this may provide a way to test the translator.



and how we can test?


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 Post subject: Re: News for Marvel 88ss9189-bld2
PostPosted: September 9th, 2017, 3:51 
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hhddrec wrote:
yes very probably.
The question now is:

Do you think will be recoverable ussing pc3K for SSD? <<----Always read the latest updated news
any other way to recover translator?
<<----- Translator >> I dont think so , DATA >> Chip-Off (needs high skills)

good luck

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 Post subject: Re: News for Marvel 88ss9189-bld2
PostPosted: September 9th, 2017, 6:13 
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deleted - answer for wrong model of Marvell


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 Post subject: Re: News for Marvel 88ss9189-bld2
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hhddrec wrote:
fzabkar wrote:
Is it possible that SanDisk's Translate Sector (87h) ATA command has been retained in their SSD models?

If so, then this may provide a way to test the translator.


and how we can test?

SanDisk CompactFlash Memory Card OEM Product Manual:
http://pdfstream.manualsonline.com/2/23ba20e9-6aaf-4f79-a7d9-f78379489686.pdf

There is a Translate Sector (87h) command on page 5-23:

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When this command is issued, the controller responds with a 512-byte buffer of information on the desired cylinder, head and sector with the actual Logical Address.

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Table 5-33 represents the information in the buffer. This command is unique to SanDisk CompactFlash Memory cards.

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 Post subject: Re: News for Marvel 88ss9189-bld2
PostPosted: August 25th, 2020, 11:01 
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Hello, I just registered because I am at loss what to do: Sandisk Ultra II 480 GB SSD with Marvel 88ss9189-bld2 controller.
The drive has been through PC 3000 incl. direct support from Roman (ACE) and the chips warm up but no data read out at all.
Diagnosis so far: electrically dead. No answer from drive...Eprom read error...Firmware upload impossible etc...
I am looking for somebody who has dissoldered the memory and resoldered them to the same drive model and gotten the data out. Is this possible? Anybody out there? I know it means A LOT of work and am willing to spend.

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 Post subject: Re: News for Marvel 88ss9189-bld2
PostPosted: August 26th, 2020, 15:45 
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If you can upload detailed photos of each side of the PCB, I can show you the voltage test points. That will help us to narrow down the fault.

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 Post subject: Re: News for Marvel 88ss9189-bld2
PostPosted: August 26th, 2020, 17:22 
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fzabkar wrote:
If you can upload detailed photos of each side of the PCB, I can show you the voltage test points. That will help us to narrow down the fault.


I have few of these drives now in lab now. PCB scans:


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 Post subject: Re: News for Marvel 88ss9189-bld2
PostPosted: August 26th, 2020, 18:08 
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Yes thats what mine looks like thanks, Voltage gets in, chips get warm. The drive was overfilled, meaning somebody was working with video, not knowing that the files were written to the system disk/usr/movies and it sort of ran out of memory, could that be?
Supposedly it started acting up and then died that same day.
Anyway its totally unresponsive since I got it. I am hoping to find somebody who successfully de-soldered, dumped and reassembled data from this model as that seems to be the only solution.


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 Post subject: Re: News for Marvel 88ss9189-bld2
PostPosted: August 26th, 2020, 21:18 
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The supply voltage test points appear to be TP23 - 26.

There appears to be a load switch and TVS diode at the 5V input.


Datasheets for HDD memory ICs including EEPROM, EPROM, flash:
http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/Datasheets/DATAURLS.HTM


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 Post subject: Re: News for Marvel 88ss9189-bld2
PostPosted: August 27th, 2020, 1:18 
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Thanks! I just got a note from ACE in Texas and they said no chance to recover this model because of firmware :cry:


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 Post subject: Re: News for Marvel 88ss9189-bld2
PostPosted: August 27th, 2020, 3:53 
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Two more linear LDO regulators.


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 Post subject: Re: News for Marvel 88ss9189-bld2
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I think this is a 1.5V LDO regulator (if the part marking is AY).


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