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 Post subject: Hard Drive Recovery Work Bench - Who designed them?
PostPosted: November 1st, 2018, 11:44 
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As a result of discussions in other threads about companies copying the designs of other's work, I got thinking about the hard drive recovery work benches I have, purchased from Salvation Data more than 10 years ago. I think I can state, without argument from many, this is the one thing that I purchased from them that actually works and is used many times a day in my lab.

I see that there are several companies selling a work bench, each with slight variations, but all built with the same underlying design features. It seems to me that only one company designed the work bench and everyone else is copying their design.

What I'm curious to know is, who actually designed the workbench and should we only purchase it from them?

Salvation Data - http://salvationdata.com/hpe-pro-head-p ... hange.html
HDRC - http://www.hdrconline.com/workbench.php
ApexToolLab - https://apextoollab.com/work-bench/work_bench.html
HDD Surgery - http://hddsurgery.com/data-recovery-too ... -workbench
Dolphin Data Lab - https://www.dolphindatalab.com/product/ ... -advanced/
HDD Zone - https://www.hddzone.com/hdd-repair-work ... -1999.html

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 Post subject: Re: Hard Drive Recovery Work Bench - Who designed them?
PostPosted: November 1st, 2018, 11:48 
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I have an invoice somewhere from Salvation for $1000 for one of those work bench things from years ago. They are 100 bucks now from apex. The one I made myself has done me proud


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 Post subject: Re: Hard Drive Recovery Work Bench - Who designed them?
PostPosted: November 1st, 2018, 13:06 
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lcoughey wrote:
What I'm curious to know is, who actually designed the workbench and should we only purchase it from them?

LOL. Why do I get the feeling you are tweaking someone's nose, Luke? :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Hard Drive Recovery Work Bench - Who designed them?
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Really nice question, but in the end i think people will go for the cheapest and and best made. But really good to know who made it first. :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Hard Drive Recovery Work Bench - Who designed them?
PostPosted: November 1st, 2018, 14:59 
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I would have to agree with Luke. There are companies out there that are innovators, and then other companies just make clones off of others hard work. Going always after the cheapest seems great in the beginning, but when the innovators are no longer there, the clone companies can not offer anything of value.

I have had mine for so long I will have to check on the tag to see who made mine. It was not cheap, but my ROI has been very nice!
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 Post subject: Re: Hard Drive Recovery Work Bench - Who designed them?
PostPosted: November 2nd, 2018, 6:27 
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We copied design from Salvation data. We had screw drives that were longer, so we made it a bit taller.
Other than that it is their idea.

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 Post subject: Re: Hard Drive Recovery Work Bench - Who designed them?
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Thanks for being up front helpdisc. The extra height is likely a useful improvement.

As a quick follow-up and because we are unable to edit our posts here, I thought it might be useful for this thread to have the prices for each of the benches listed above.

Prices in USD

Salvation Data - $800 (only sold with their platter swap and head tool kit)
HDRC - Not posted on their site and no response via Skype or web inquiry.
ApexToolLab - $100
HDD Surgery - ~$300 (270 EUR)
Dolphin Data Lab - $550 (only sold with a similar platter swap and head tool kit as Salvation Data)
HDD Zone - $180 (on sales for $170 as of the time of this post)

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 Post subject: Re: Hard Drive Recovery Work Bench - Who designed them?
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lcoughey wrote:
Thanks for being up front helpdisc. The extra height is likely a useful improvement.



Do you use it?

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 Post subject: Re: Hard Drive Recovery Work Bench - Who designed them?
PostPosted: November 5th, 2018, 11:18 
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helpdisc wrote:
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Thanks for being up front helpdisc. The extra height is likely a useful improvement.



Do you use it?

No, I have 2 of the Salvation Data units, which work great. I have one dedicated to 2.5" drives and the other to 2.5" drives. If there were anything that I'd change with them is making them a bit higher, which is why I think that your modification is a useful improvement. It also helps that your unit costs less than Salvation Data and doesn't include all the other useless stuff that they want to throw in at the higher price. With this particular design, I think that the base with the curved legs makes the stand more stable for cases where it does need to be tilted a bit to access the underside. I'm not sure that would work well with the stand by Apex. But, for $100, I might just order the Apex bench to compare.

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 Post subject: Re: Hard Drive Recovery Work Bench - Who designed them?
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I'm not a HDD person so I'll chime in with an "outsider's" perspective.

At what point to you overpay for what is essentially a metal table? It's more practical than innovative and chances are someone else would have thought of it if Salvation hadn't. If Salvation charged a lower and more reasonable amount, there wouldn't be a need for cloners.

Ideally, what you want to see is someone innovating and then others adding additional innovations to the original design...always progressing to the benefit of the community. The fact that it hasn't really changed speaks volumes.

It is nice and shiny though :D and probably manufactured to high tolerances so if you like quality products and tools, it's no doubt a worthwhile investment.

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