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 Post subject: WD5000BMVV connector
PostPosted: June 26th, 2010, 9:21 
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Hello again,

Has anyone worked on one of these drives before? It has 1 pin out to the left, to the right of that is 12 more pins (6 on each row), there is the USB port to the right and another 2 pins on the same row to the right of the USB port and has no SATA nor IDE adapters. I have tried a number of ways and wirings to connect it as an internal drive but nothing works so far.

http://img251.imageshack.us/i/dsc00642b ... Bu8YZ4SejA

Appreciate any reply.


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVV connector
PostPosted: June 27th, 2010, 19:42 
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Upload a detailed photo of both sides of the PCB.

There should be two, capacitively coupled, SATA Tx/Rx signal pairs running between the bridge chip and the MCU (assuming the bridge is a separate IC). You can remove the capacitors and then tap into the Tx/Rx pairs with a SATA cable.

However, even after doing the above, you may encounter encryption.

BTW, what were the "number of ways and wirings" that you tried?


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVV connector
PostPosted: June 27th, 2010, 22:22 
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Yah WD Passport USB drive. No there is no connector for this one. Yes there is a way to do this. Is the answer available = no. You are going to have to find a pro in your area to do this one for you to get off your data. Is it possible to change PCB answer is no.

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVV connector
PostPosted: June 28th, 2010, 3:37 
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I love these new drives... :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVV connector
PostPosted: June 28th, 2010, 4:10 
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I like them already... :)

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVV connector
PostPosted: June 28th, 2010, 5:34 
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Why would you want to change this to an internal disk drive? Surely a standard SATA disk drive is cheap enough these days.

fzabkar wrote:

However, even after doing the above, you may encounter encryption.



Also, most of these disks come with WD Smartware which is activated via connection through USB only, so as much as I hate to admint it fzabkar is right...


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVV connector
PostPosted: January 11th, 2011, 18:17 
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I have attached some pictures. I am in the same situation and need to retrieve the data, encrypted or not. Any information would be helpful.


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVV connector
PostPosted: January 13th, 2011, 22:18 
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Does your drive spin up?

If using Windows, can you see the Initio INIC-1607E USB-SATA bridge chip with Microsoft's UVCView?
http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/USB_ID ... ew.x86.exe

I believe these photo clips identify the SATA Tx/Rx signal pairs, coupling capacitors, and test points.

http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/HDD/WD ... V_TxRx.jpg
http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/HDD/WD ... V_caps.jpg

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVV connector
PostPosted: March 24th, 2011, 16:12 
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Drive: WD Passport 1 TB

When plugged into any desktop and laptop port:

1) It lights up and stays lit up.
2) It makes five distinct growling noises and then idles.
3) It isn't recognized by the PC nor by Microsoft's UVCView.

When taken out of the shell, it contains a 12 pin connection output and a micro-b USB connection output.

The pinout of 12 pins is unknown. WD said, quote, "This is not a connection we provide support for. It is there for data recovery companies to recover data in emergency cases. We do not have any schematics regarding the pinout of the 12 pins, again, sir, this is only for data recovery companies who plug their special connection to recover data."

Can anyone answer this:

If the drive is lighting up, should I even try shortning up the cable from 18 to 6 inches? Devices are normally built with lamps which light up after a certain amount of voltage gets through it. I am trying to eliminate the cable problem. Two other 18 inch cables didn't work and I am thinking of shortening one of them to 6 inches to try it.


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVV connector
PostPosted: March 24th, 2011, 16:54 
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Problem is physical

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVV connector
PostPosted: March 24th, 2011, 17:15 
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What's the problem?


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVV connector
PostPosted: March 24th, 2011, 20:21 
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Former wrote:
Drive: WD Passport 1 TB

When plugged into any desktop and laptop port:

1) It lights up and stays lit up.
2) It makes five distinct growling noises and then idles.
3) It isn't recognized by the PC nor by Microsoft's UVCView.

I don't know about the "growling noises" (media problems???), but the first thing I would try is a USB Y-cable to pick up power from two USB ports.

Alternatively, some Gigabyte motherboards can provide a 3x power boost from a single USB port:
http://community.wdc.com/t5/My-Passport ... 5004#M4946

Also, many WD users are reporting physical connection problems with the flimsy USB connectors. You would be advised to perform a point-to-point continuity check between the USB pins on the drive's PCB and the corresponding pins at the USB connector at the computer end of the USB cable.

http://pinouts.ru/Slots/USB_pinout.shtml

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVV connector
PostPosted: March 25th, 2011, 0:58 
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Thanks for the USB pinout, will try.

Motherboard replacement is not an option now. The plan is to recover the data and get a different hard drive. Perhaps, someone knows of something as small as a passport, but better quality?

Regarding the USB Y Connector. I have read about this connection and looked for a cable to purchase, but I haven't found a Y Cable for this specfici type of USB 3.0 to Micro-B connection. Would you happen to know any vendor who sells them?

http://media.bestofmicro.com/Superspeed ... 9528-1.jpg


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVV connector
PostPosted: March 26th, 2011, 1:11 
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USB 3.0 can supply up to 900 mA. Your USB drive probably uses less than that at spin up, so a Y-cable should not be required. To rule out this possibility completely, you could use a powered USB hub.

If it is a connector issue, then I suspect that either the Data+ or Data- pin may have come adrift at the drive's PCB. If it isn't a connector issue, then it could be that the drive is not coming ready.

BTW, I wasn't suggesting that you replace your motherboard. Many Gigabyte motherboard owners are unaware of the 3x power boost, so I just wanted to let you know in case you had such a board.

The following threads may be worth reading:

wd10tmvv-t16204-80.html
disk-with-sata-usb-adapter-remove-virtual-rom-t18492.html

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVV connector
PostPosted: March 26th, 2011, 11:52 
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Thank you, that's a lot of good information.

Can you clear up one thing? I am not sure whether these are two different things you are talking about, they seem conflicting.

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I don't know about the "growling noises" (media problems???), but the first thing I would try is a USB Y-cable to pick up power from two USB ports.


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USB 3.0 can supply up to 900 mA. Your USB drive probably uses less than that at spin up, so a Y-cable should not be required.


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVV connector
PostPosted: March 26th, 2011, 17:15 
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Sorry, I assumed that your USB ports were 2.0, which is current limited to 500mA. A typical Seagate 2.5" Momentus drive draws 850mA during spin-up and about 450mA thereafter.

Users report beeping noises for those drives that are having difficulty spinning up when connected to insufficient power. "Growling" sounds like something else, though.

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVV connector
PostPosted: March 26th, 2011, 20:41 
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Ah ok. My desktop and laptop are USB 2.0. They are both about five years old. I think the Y cable, based on your last post, then would come useful. I will receive it in a few days.


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVV connector
PostPosted: March 29th, 2011, 20:06 
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I tried the Y cable that came in today, it still does the same thing.

1) Lights up and stays lit on
2) Makes the following noise 5 times in a row

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What do you suggest next?


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVV connector
PostPosted: October 31st, 2011, 5:15 
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Former wrote:
I tried the Y cable that came in today, it still does the same thing.

1) Lights up and stays lit on
2) Makes the following noise 5 times in a row

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What do you suggest next?


solved this problem?
Were you able to recover data?
Because I have the same problem


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000BMVV connector
PostPosted: October 31st, 2011, 7:15 
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I haven't solved the problem. I put the hard drive away. Eventually, I'll have a forensic data recovery done on it.


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