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 Post subject: Re: Need LDR For ST9500325AS
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 Post subject: Re: Need LDR For ST9500325AS
PostPosted: May 26th, 2018, 17:23 
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fzabkar wrote:
Here is an example where we extract the loader from the 0021LVM1 Lenovo firmware update for 5400.6 Momentus drives. It is included in the FWSH43 package (47MB):

http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/ds003740

Hi, sorry for bumping old topic and a little bit offtop, but how did you extract FW from Lenovo package?
I am running an a very old HDD, but SMART is showing something strange:
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=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Seagate Momentus 5400.6
Device Model:     ST9250315AS
Serial Number:    6VC4JD1F
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000c50 027a28699
Firmware Version: 0020LVM1
User Capacity:    250 059 350 016 bytes [250 GB]
Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate:    5400 rpm
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
SATA Version is:  SATA 2.6, 3.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:    Sat May 26 23:30:14 2018 MSK
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000f   118   099   034    Pre-fail  Always       -       176154479
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0003   099   099   000    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   096   096   020    Old_age   Always       -       4317
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   036    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000f   066   060   030    Pre-fail  Always       -       167648406562
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   084   084   000    Old_age   Always       -       14074 (117 244 0)
10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   097    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   096   096   020    Old_age   Always       -       4317
184 End-to-End_Error        0x0032   100   100   099    Old_age   Always       -       0
187 Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   088   088   000    Old_age   Always       -       12
188 Command_Timeout         0x0032   100   096   000    Old_age   Always       -       1244
189 High_Fly_Writes         0x003a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   058   044   045    Old_age   Always   In_the_past 42 (Min/Max 32/42 #13)
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       134
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       45
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   091   091   000    Old_age   Always       -       18663
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   042   056   000    Old_age   Always       -       42
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   046   040   000    Old_age   Always       -       176154479
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x000f   084   084   030    Pre-fail  Always       -       14031 (50140 0)
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0



I am not sure if my hdd SMART-tool correctly interpretate SMART data of my hdd with an old firmware, I have already buy a new hdd, but want to update a FW to the latest one to become sure if it is dead...

Unfortunately my ODD seems to be also dead, and I couldn't run the burnd ISO, I also tried to run ISO from grub bootloader, but also faild, so I want to try updating via hdparm but need the firmware file for that.


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 Post subject: Re: Need LDR For ST9500325AS
PostPosted: May 27th, 2018, 8:40 
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Can you explain what EXACTLY is the problem with your drive and what do you think to be "strange" with S.M.A.R.T. ?

Updating the firmware will NOT fix your drive ...

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 Post subject: Re: Need LDR For ST9500325AS
PostPosted: May 27th, 2018, 15:04 
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Can you explain what EXACTLY is the problem with your drive

There are no visible problem, but hdd is 10 year old...

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what do you think to be "strange" with S.M.A.R.T.

the raw value of 196 atribute seems to be too high for good working HDD
atribute 7 is also non zero...

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Updating the firmware will NOT fix your drive ...

Yes, sure, but I hope it could correct values of SMART


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 Post subject: Re: Need LDR For ST9500325AS
PostPosted: May 27th, 2018, 15:12 
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- If the HDD is 10 years old and you are worried about it just replace it by something that it's not a Seagate.

- Updating firmware will NOT re-set S.MA.R.T. and even less "fix" any problem that the drive might have caused by it's old age.

- For example G-Sense_Error_Rate is non-zero so the drive did suffer from a "fall" or you hit the laptop with the drive inside, or it was dropped, etc ... You can't fix physical damage with firmware update.

- If heads and surface are dying because of old age, like heads having contamination and platters loosing the magnetic capability you will not fix that with firmware updates.

- If the drive worked OK for 10 years no there is no reason to update firmware.

- You can clear S.M.A.R.T. with a special terminal command but that will not change the status of the drive. If the drive is bad and old it will not change just because you clear and re-set the S.M.A.R.T. counter as those values are just indicating what is going on with the drive. It's like if you change your birth date on your ID card you will still have the same age even if on your birth registers, etc you have false / faked info. If you do have health problems because of your age those will not "heal" just because you fake your age on your ID card ...

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 Post subject: Re: Need LDR For ST9500325AS
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Yes, thanks, I do understand how the SMART is working, the current FW is modified by Lenovo, so I am not sure that this firmware is compateble with standart SMART reading programs....
The only reason to update the FW I thought that the update could convert current SMART data to an standart format if it is differ....


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 Post subject: Re: Need LDR For ST9500325AS
PostPosted: May 27th, 2018, 18:50 
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AlxNew wrote:
Yes, thanks, I do understand how the SMART is working, the current FW is modified by Lenovo, so I am not sure that this firmware is compateble with standart SMART reading programs....
The only reason to update the FW I thought that the update could convert current SMART data to an standart format if it is differ....


:shock: :shock: :shock:

Forget about that ...

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 Post subject: Re: Need LDR For ST9500325AS
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Ok, thanks.
So there is no way to find out if my HDD is dying or not, by SMART data?
I'll move data to new HDD and then scan the surface via victoria or mhdd. Hope it will be enough.


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AlxNew wrote:
Ok, thanks.
So there is no way to find out if my HDD is dying or not by SMART data?
I'll move data to new HDD and then scan the surface via victoria or mhdd. Hope it will be enough.


Read here :

Testing hard disks with some confidence :

And don't worry because if your drive is not dying (yet) it will dye very shortly anyway so .... BACKUP all of your data ... NOW !

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