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 Post subject: WD10JMVW 2.5 usb - connect sata adapter
PostPosted: September 12th, 2017, 10:16 
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How to connect sata adapter to pcb for this drive?
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 Post subject: Re: WD10JMVW 2.5 usb - connect sata adapter
PostPosted: September 12th, 2017, 11:06 
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You will probably have a better chance of getting help if you post quality pictures of both sides of your PCB. That said, it might just be easier to use a SATA PCB. Typically 771960, 771939, 771959 for that drive (assuming it has a 771961 PCB).

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 Post subject: Re: WD10JMVW 2.5 usb - connect sata adapter
PostPosted: September 12th, 2017, 13:14 
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I have only one side picture with me now.You are right its board number is 771961


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PostPosted: September 12th, 2017, 13:17 
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There is no adapter per se. The conversion from SATA to USB is all built into the drive. There are two resistors that you can generally remove and solder into the SATA lanes if you must do it that way. However, it's generally easier to just transfer the ROM or ROM code to a matched SATA board. I've been keeping an updated list of compatible SATA boards on this thread: https://www.data-medics.com/forum/wd-pa ... e-t13.html

However, you'll likely find that by bypassing the USB bridge the data will be encrypted. So you'll need to have a method for handling the encryption afterward.

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 Post subject: Re: WD10JMVW 2.5 usb - connect sata adapter
PostPosted: September 12th, 2017, 13:25 
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Also I dont have compatible pcb.
So I need coonect sata adapter


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 Post subject: Re: WD10JMVW 2.5 usb - connect sata adapter
PostPosted: September 18th, 2017, 3:20 
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ctanis wrote:
Also I dont have compatible pcb.
So I need coonect sata adapter


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 Post subject: Re: WD10JMVW 2.5 usb - connect sata adapter
PostPosted: September 18th, 2017, 3:30 
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And why don't you buy one?
It's cheap...

And with PC3K (which I assume you have) it's a job for a few minutes, instead of some time soldering...

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 Post subject: Re: WD10JMVW 2.5 usb - connect sata adapter
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Here's the connection points: https://www.data-medics.com/forum/board ... t1828.html

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 Post subject: Re: WD10JMVW 2.5 usb - connect sata adapter
PostPosted: November 20th, 2018, 16:49 
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Hi all.
I am new user at this platform. My English not good. And new about recovery.

I have same hdd WD10JMVW 11AJGS1 USB 3 PCB 2060 771961 , 1 TB
Rom Firmware Version : 00160018

It's working busy mode. Its allow to get data . But extreemly slow.
I use MRT .
MRT technician says I need LDR that have 411 5C 1B 11 . I found LDR file in forum that have 411 1B 11 but not have 5C .

Anyone can help me.

I have SATA PCB . Tried hot swap. But i can not do nothing with it.
Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: WD10JMVW 2.5 usb - connect sata adapter
PostPosted: November 21st, 2018, 4:34 
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Why do you need a loader if the drive is ID fine?
Probably you might have a SLOW bug or even one (or more) not working head or reading slowly.

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 Post subject: Re: WD10JMVW 2.5 usb - connect sata adapter
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Hdd connecting with USB 3 port. I cannot see modules , tracks etc.
Also windows not detect first. I find a strange method
Some HDD accept this method.
I making readonly with using windows diskpart. This method mostly working busy mode hdd. Sometime raw hdd turning to NFTS directly. So this hdd turned NFTS in readonly mode. But not solve busy mode.
Anyway. I can see hdd family only with this method for this hdd. But i cannot see modules etc in MRT. It's allow DE but again very slow. I can see everything inside with windows. Same. Busy.
I tried tv9 tv10 circuit short. Windows not detect media. Says no media in device manager.
Both Windows and MRT not see hdd. I see only a USB device capacity 0.
I tried hot swap to Sata PCB . Nothing ...
MRT technician said LDR method. Trying to find solution

I am outside . I can send detailed info and screen shot later.

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PostPosted: November 21st, 2018, 15:27 
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HddDonorMarket wrote:
Hdd connecting with USB 3 port. I cannot see modules , tracks etc.
Also windows not detect first. I find a strange method
Some HDD accept this method.
I making readonly with using windows diskpart. This method mostly working busy mode hdd. Sometime raw hdd turning to NFTS directly. So this hdd turned NFTS in readonly mode. But not solve busy mode.
Anyway. I can see hdd family only with this method for this hdd. But i cannot see modules etc in MRT. It's allow DE but again very slow. I can see everything inside with windows. Same. Busy.
I tried tv9 tv10 circuit short. Windows not detect media. Says no media in device manager.
Both Windows and MRT not see hdd. I see only a USB device capacity 0.
I tried hot swap to Sata PCB . Nothing ...
MRT technician said LDR method. Trying to find solution

I am outside . I can send detailed info and screen shot later.

Thanks


Forget about those MRT guys and outsource the drive to someone with more experience to recover the data from it ....

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 Post subject: Re: WD10JMVW 2.5 usb - connect sata adapter
PostPosted: November 21st, 2018, 15:28 
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I tried tv9 tv10 circuit short. Windows not detect media. Says no media in device manager.
Both Windows and MRT not see hdd.


:shock: :shock: :shock:

The idea of shorting those points is exactly to prevent FW from loading. If you do that why do you think that windows would see the drive ? :roll: :roll: :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: WD10JMVW 2.5 usb - connect sata adapter
PostPosted: November 21st, 2018, 15:32 
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If this were a drive that i were attempting to recover i would :

Option 1 - Plug by TTL to USB PCB pins and attempt to read module 02. If Access is granted i would patch 02 and clear Re-Lo. Power off/on. Image by USB.

Option 2 - Use a SATA PCB. Move ROM content either by external programmer, moving chip or reading ROM by USB if possible (or TTL if available). Now with SATA PCB try to initialize dir + module 11, etc ... Can you gain access to SA to patch 02 and clear re-lo ?

If the drive does ID properly ... SOMETIMES ... It does mean that you still have access to undamaged overlay and firmware ... I would vote for considerable amount of bad sectors.

Hopefully head(s) are still ok and the slow issue patch will allow you for imaging/cloning.

Now ... If you can't do that by USB you might need to deal with decryption later on ...

If this is a client drive do outsource to a reputable person near you that knows what she/he is doing ...

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 Post subject: Re: WD10JMVW 2.5 usb - connect sata adapter
PostPosted: November 21st, 2018, 15:33 
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Spildit wrote:
HddDonorMarket wrote:
Hdd connecting with USB 3 port. I cannot see modules , tracks etc.
Also windows not detect first. I find a strange method
Some HDD accept this method.
I making readonly with using windows diskpart. This method mostly working busy mode hdd. Sometime raw hdd turning to NFTS directly. So this hdd turned NFTS in readonly mode. But not solve busy mode.
Anyway. I can see hdd family only with this method for this hdd. But i cannot see modules etc in MRT. It's allow DE but again very slow. I can see everything inside with windows. Same. Busy.
I tried tv9 tv10 circuit short. Windows not detect media. Says no media in device manager.
Both Windows and MRT not see hdd. I see only a USB device capacity 0.
I tried hot swap to Sata PCB . Nothing ...
MRT technician said LDR method. Trying to find solution

I am outside . I can send detailed info and screen shot later.

Thanks


Forget about those MRT guys and outsource the drive to someone with more experience to recover the data from it ....


I have to agree!

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PostPosted: November 21st, 2018, 15:44 
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I CAN SEE A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THIS ....

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Hdd connecting with USB 3 port. I cannot see modules , tracks etc.
- You should use SATA if possible. If not you can try USB pass-trough or preferable TTL (ATA over TTL) to read modules and ROM. Target only the necessary modules as reading/writing by TTL is slow.

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I find a strange method
Some HDD accept this method.
I making readonly with using windows diskpart.
- You should NEVER WRITE to a drive that you want to recover from even if it's just a boot sectors to make it un-mountable by windows.

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This method mostly working busy mode hdd. Sometime raw hdd turning to NFTS directly.
- NO !!! On WD drives that are BSY (slow) patching module 02 and clear RE-LO are the best method to gain proper speed, NOT to mess with LBA space. AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF HEADS ARE OK !!! For RAW/NTFS you are dealing at file system level and you should address this with software like R-Studio, etc lacking Data Extractor ... If you have MRT use Data Explorer to extract he data instead of messing with original bad drive (write to it).

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But not solve busy mode.
- Of course NOT !

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Anyway. I can see hdd family only with this method for this hdd. But i cannot see modules etc in MRT.
- Normal. How are you connecting the drive to MRT ? By .... USB ? If the drive is stuck in BSY you will have trouble with SATA even more with .... USB !!!

Or are you plugging the drive to the USB port of the computer and wishing that MRT do see the drive ? :shock: :shock: :shock:

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It's allow DE but again very slow. I can see everything inside with windows. Same. Busy.
If you can see it with MRT DE at least you should have connected it to MRT somehew ... Most likely if you are using USB you can't send VSCs to the drive with MRT and that is why you can't see modules .... Assuming that you have some sort of adaptor to connect the USB drive by ---- USB ? To MRT ?

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I tried tv9 tv10 circuit short. Windows not detect media. Says no media in device manager.
- This is 100% normal ! If you short those points firmware will not load and drive will not initialize. Of course windows will not see it.

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I tried hot swap to Sata PCB . Nothing ...
- Can you explain EXACTLY what you have done here ? How did you ... HOT SWAP this one ?

Well ... and the list goes on ...

If you are making this sort of questions you shouldn't be messing with a client drive ....

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 Post subject: Re: WD10JMVW 2.5 usb - connect sata adapter
PostPosted: November 21st, 2018, 18:13 
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Thanks for all replies. I am new as i said before.

Spildit wrote:
Forget about those MRT guys and outsource the drive to someone with more experience to recover the data from it ....


I know . But money problem..)

Spildit wrote:

The idea of shorting those points is exactly to prevent FW from loading. If you do that why do you think that windows would see the drive ? :roll: :roll: :roll:


I learned . Thanks

Spildit wrote:
If this were a drive that i were attempting to recover i would :

Option 1 - Plug by TTL to USB PCB pins and attempt to read module 02. If Access is granted i would patch 02 and clear Re-Lo. Power off/on. Image by USB.

Option 2 - Use a SATA PCB. Move ROM content either by external programmer, moving chip or reading ROM by USB if possible (or TTL if available). Now with SATA PCB try to initialize dir + module 11, etc ... Can you gain access to SA to patch 02 and clear re-lo ?

If the drive does ID properly ... SOMETIMES ... It does mean that you still have access to undamaged overlay and firmware ... I would vote for considerable amount of bad sectors.

Hopefully head(s) are still ok and the slow issue patch will allow you for imaging/cloning.

Now ... If you can't do that by USB you might need to deal with decryption later on ...
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I will search about how can I try this options.

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- Normal. How are you connecting the drive to MRT ? By .... USB ? If the drive is stuck in BSY you will have trouble with SATA even more with .... USB !!!

Or are you plugging the drive to the USB port of the computer and wishing that MRT do see the drive ? :shock: :shock: :shock:


yes . MRT see it.

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If you can see it with MRT DE at least you should have connected it to MRT somehew ... Most likely if you are using USB you can't send VSCs to the drive with MRT and that is why you can't see modules .... Assuming that you have some sort of adaptor to connect the USB drive by ---- USB ? To MRT ?


No computers USB Port. I can see all with MRT DE, Only WD USB for fixing sections

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- Can you explain EXACTLY what you have done here ? How did you ... HOT SWAP this one ?

U12 chip swap from 2060-771961 USB pcb to 2060-771960 Sata Pcb


I have TTL Uart usb adaptor. But i cannot use it properly. I dont know why. Sometimes working. Sometimes not. But how do I connect with this HDD. Tehre is no com port

Thanks for all . I will try to learn your advices.


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PostPosted: November 23rd, 2018, 4:44 
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HddDonorMarket wrote:
Thanks for all replies. I am new as i said before.

Spildit wrote:
Forget about those MRT guys and outsource the drive to someone with more experience to recover the data from it ....

HddDonorMarket wrote:
I know . But money problem..)



I can help you try to repair it for free if you want


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Alikhan wrote:
HddDonorMarket wrote:
Thanks for all replies. I am new as i said before.

Spildit wrote:
Forget about those MRT guys and outsource the drive to someone with more experience to recover the data from it ....

HddDonorMarket wrote:
I know . But money problem..)



I can help you try to repair it for free if you want


How ?


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PostPosted: November 23rd, 2018, 15:39 
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HddDonorMarket wrote:

U12 chip swap from 2060-771961 USB pcb to 2060-771960 Sata Pcb



If you do this and if you then plug the SATA PCB to MRT port and run it can you access the modules on the drive by MRT Utility ?

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