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 Post subject: Chip Off jobs on encrypted Android Phones
PostPosted: May 11th, 2018, 8:18 
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Hey Guys,

can some one tell me, if there is a list with Android phones, that are encrypted by default?
And how does the encryption of the device work? Afaik the Android devices doesn't have something like the "Secure Enclave" of iPhones, so the key must be some where. Or is there no way to get the data, if the device is encrypted?


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 Post subject: Re: Chip Off jobs on encrypted Android Phones
PostPosted: May 11th, 2018, 11:13 
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Anything with base OS of 6.1 or higher will have mandatory encryption, unless the encryption affects the performance of the handset (as with some cheaper handsets). Key is not stored as a static key, it is generated during startup processes so is not possible to extract easily.


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 Post subject: Re: Chip Off jobs on encrypted Android Phones
PostPosted: May 11th, 2018, 11:27 
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So it's not worth to invest into Chip Off DR Tools for Smartphones?


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 Post subject: Re: Chip Off jobs on encrypted Android Phones
PostPosted: May 12th, 2018, 6:04 
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Since Android 6.0 not anymore in my opinion.

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 Post subject: Re: Chip Off jobs on encrypted Android Phones
PostPosted: May 13th, 2018, 12:59 
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melvin wrote:
Since Android 6.0 not anymore in my opinion.

Agreed. It can be an expensive game to get into as well and as the market is shrinking might not be worth it. While some older phones have eMMC chips which can be easily read, there are UFS chips and the eMCP529 chip like in the Note 4. They both need special readers.

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 Post subject: Re: Chip Off jobs on encrypted Android Phones
PostPosted: May 13th, 2018, 16:34 
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ddrecovery wrote:
melvin wrote:
Since Android 6.0 not anymore in my opinion.

Agreed. It can be an expensive game to get into as well and as the market is shrinking might not be worth it. While some older phones have eMMC chips which can be easily read, there are UFS chips and the eMCP529 chip like in the Note 4. They both need special readers.


Well,
Nothing is Special About those Readers ,As You Have eMMC Reader WE Have UFS Readers Like Nuprog -> https://multi-com.eu/,details,id_pr,217 ... tools.html example taken from our friend bolos website. But i Wonder Why They Are Making Chipoff So Hard What Will They Achieve With This ,Google Should Have Some Consideration for Data Recovery Too .

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 Post subject: Re: Chip Off jobs on encrypted Android Phones
PostPosted: May 13th, 2018, 18:43 
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It wasn't the fact that the readers are 'special', just that the cost may make it prohibitive to someone just entering the market.

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 Post subject: Re: Chip Off jobs on encrypted Android Phones
PostPosted: May 14th, 2018, 10:48 
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ddrecovery wrote:
It wasn't the fact that the readers are 'special', just that the cost may make it prohibitive to someone just entering the market.



Lol,
Seriously Mr Tim Homer Considering That Its The High End Phones And People Using Them PAYYYYYYYY Its Not a Issue Getting The Device .Reader Pricing Can Be Recovered in 4 To 6 Jobs ,So Please Reserve Your Comments Please .A Guy Entering DR Field Know The Costing Of Equipment

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 Post subject: Re: Chip Off jobs on encrypted Android Phones
PostPosted: May 14th, 2018, 11:39 
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Amarbir[CDR-Labs] wrote:
ddrecovery wrote:
It wasn't the fact that the readers are 'special', just that the cost may make it prohibitive to someone just entering the market.

Lol,
Seriously Mr Tim Homer Considering That Its The High End Phones And People Using Them PAYYYYYYYY Its Not a Issue Getting The Device .Reader Pricing Can Be Recovered in 4 To 6 Jobs ,So Please Reserve Your Comments Please .A Guy Entering DR Field Know The Costing Of Equipment

LOL. As usual you totally miss the point of what the OP was asking.

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 Post subject: Re: Chip Off jobs on encrypted Android Phones
PostPosted: May 16th, 2018, 6:04 
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Only a small amount of non-encrypted handsets will use these UFS chips, so for most people it is not as essential as readers for traditional eMMC .

I think for the most part, not many people are working with recovery of android devices through choice - they are a pain in the A$$ :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Chip Off jobs on encrypted Android Phones
PostPosted: May 16th, 2018, 8:25 
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D_R wrote:
So it's not worth to invest into Chip Off DR Tools for Smartphones?


It worth if you know exactly what you are doing...

There is a big Diff. between repairing the phone and getting whats inside the phone..

and i think you will need a Little from both but its not gonna be easy once you get started.

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