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m3222656
 Post subject: HDDGURU Unable to lock device
PostPosted: January 30th, 2015, 17:47 
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hi guys

i have a problem with hddguru low level format . i have a two hdd in my pc . ssd 64GB and seagate 1TB .
now i want to do low level format 1TB hdd but hddguru show me message "" Unable to lock device. Make sure you do not have open files on this device and try again. ""
i cant understand what does it mean? because there is no any open files or open program. i checked task manager and nothing to find .

can someone tell how can i fix it ?

thanks
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mr_spokk
 Post subject: Re: HDDGURU Unable to lock device
PostPosted: January 30th, 2015, 19:04 
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Bad sectors on the SSD...I have a 256Gb behave exactly the same.

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m3222656
 Post subject: Re: HDDGURU Unable to lock device
PostPosted: January 31st, 2015, 4:19 
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mr_spokk wrote:
Bad sectors on the SSD...I have a 256Gb behave exactly the same.


no friend , the ssd is a completely healthy. i checked ssd twice with hd tune and hiren boot
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mr_spokk
 Post subject: Re: HDDGURU Unable to lock device
PostPosted: January 31st, 2015, 9:05 
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I've checked mine as well...no problem on user area.
So I believe that there are bad sectors in SA...Service Area.

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labtech
 Post subject: Re: HDDGURU Unable to lock device
PostPosted: January 31st, 2015, 18:34 
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Can attempt looking for a firmware upgrade and apply it. Depending on firmware architecture, the upgrade may be able to re-"configure" the SA in a manner allowing it to work once again.

Obviously the drive could get bricked for good, so risks apply. Of course, this is a data destructive method, so not for data recovery purpose.

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 Post subject: Re: HDDGURU Unable to lock device
PostPosted: January 31st, 2015, 19:01 
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m3222656 wrote:
"" Unable to lock device. Make sure you do not have open files on this device and try again. ""
i cant understand what does it mean? because there is no any open files or open program.

"Locking" has nothing to do with ATA security settings or firmware issues.

Code:
C:\Windows>lock /?
Locks a drive, enabling direct disk access for an application.

  LOCK [drive:]

C:\Windows>lock c:

WARNING: The LOCK command enables direct disk access by programs
that can CORRUPT file names and/or DESTROY disk data, resulting in the
loss of files on your disk.

Are you sure (Y/N)?y
Locking operation failed


I wouldn't bother with the LLF tool. Instead just zero-fill the drive with SeaTools for DOS or a similar tool. AFAICT, SeaTools does the same thing, and at full speed.

Alternatively, you could use HDD Erase:

http://cmrr.ucsd.edu/people/Hughes/secure-erase.html

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m3222656
 Post subject: Re: HDDGURU Unable to lock device
PostPosted: February 1st, 2015, 18:14 
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labtech wrote:
Can attempt looking for a firmware upgrade and apply it. Depending on firmware architecture, the upgrade may be able to re-"configure" the SA in a manner allowing it to work once again.

Obviously the drive could get bricked for good, so risks apply. Of course, this is a data destructive method, so not for data recovery purpose.


i checked with seagate tools for new firmware but there wasn't new firmware
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HaQue
 Post subject: Re: HDDGURU Unable to lock device
PostPosted: February 1st, 2015, 19:21 
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m3222656 wrote:
hi guys

i have a problem with hddguru low level format . i have a two hdd in my pc . ssd 64GB and seagate 1TB .
now i want to do low level format 1TB hdd but hddguru show me message "" Unable to lock device. Make sure you do not have open files on this device and try again. ""
i cant understand what does it mean? because there is no any open files or open program. i checked task manager and nothing to find .

can someone tell how can i fix it ?

thanks


what are you trying to achieve, and why? You may want to read up on LLF.

you will find many instances of posts like this:
http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/geom/formatLow-c.html
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Newer disks use many complex internal structures, including zoned bit recording to put more sectors on the outer tracks than the inner ones, and embedded servo data to control the head actuator. They also transparently map out bad sectors. Due to this complexity, all modern hard disks are low-level formatted at the factory for the life of the drive. There's no way for the PC to do an LLF on a modern IDE/ATA or SCSI hard disk, and there's no reason to try to do so.


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Warning: You should never attempt to do a low-level format on an IDE/ATA or SCSI hard disk. Do not try to use BIOS-based low-level formatting tools on these newer drives. It's unlikely that you will damage anything if you try to do this (since the drive controller is programmed to ignore any such LLF attempts), but at best you will be wasting your time. A modern disk can usually be restored to "like-new" condition by using a zero-fill utility.


It is amazing to me how much time people spend trying to really wipe their drive.

IMHO if you have data on there THAT sensitive or incriminating, disks are cheap enough to smash it with a hammer.

Otherwise, do you really think the NSA is going to take your PC and apply very expensive procedures to extrct what little is left of reagular full formatted disks?
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