Confirming bad heads on Fujitsu MHV2040AH

[sknopp]

I have a Fujitsu MHV2040AH, F/W 00000096 that came in from a customer who had let chkdsk run for 4 hours on it until it completely stopped responding. MHDD shows almost all UNC. The logical explanation is that he wasted the heads doing the chkdsk and a head swap is in order. However, the drive identifies in bios with correct info and the drive is not clicking. Until now, all of the 'bad head' drives that I have fixed have all clicked. Any thoughts?

[beto]

Maybe bad heads or bad surface, can u get smart attributes post it here

[sknopp]

Thanks Beto - SMART is:

24.02.2010 14:41:45 MHDD>SMART ATT
24.02.2010 14:41:45 Getting SMART attributes...
24.02.2010 14:41:45 SMART READ ATTRIBUTES
24.02.2010 14:41:45 HDD: FUJITSU MHV2040AH; FW: 00000096; SN: NT26T5C32EV2
24.02.2010 14:41:45 --------------------------------------------------------
24.02.2010 14:41:45 SMART attributes:
24.02.2010 14:41:45 Name Val Worst Raw
24.02.2010 14:41:45 Att # 1 : Read error rate : 75 55 141219
24.02.2010 14:41:45 Att # 2 : Throughput performance : 100 100 12451840
24.02.2010 14:41:45 Att # 3 : Spin up time : 100 100 1
24.02.2010 14:41:45 Att # 4 : Number of spin-up times : 98 98 6581
24.02.2010 14:41:45 Att # 5 : Reallocated sectors count : 92 92 13566324
24.02.2010 14:41:45 Att # 7 : Seek error rate : 100 100 2595
24.02.2010 14:41:45 Att # 8 : Seek time performance : 100 100 0
24.02.2010 14:41:45 Att # 9 : Power-on time : 93 93 12835634
24.02.2010 14:41:45 Att # 10 : Spin-up retries : 100 100 0
24.02.2010 14:41:45 Att # 12 : Start/stop count : 99 99 6518
24.02.2010 14:41:45 Att # 192 : Power-off retract count : 99 99 355
24.02.2010 14:41:45 Att # 193 : Load/unload cycle count : 96 96 86140
24.02.2010 14:41:45 Att # 194 : HDA Temperature : 100 100 22
24.02.2010 14:41:45 Att # 195 : Hardware ECC recovered : 100 100 3930
24.02.2010 14:41:45 Att # 196 : Reallocate event count : 92 92 435028340
24.02.2010 14:41:45 Att # 197 : Current pending sectors : 91 91 10
24.02.2010 14:41:45 Att # 198 : Offline scan UNC sectors : 93 93 15
24.02.2010 14:41:45 Att # 199 : Ultra ATA CRC Error Rate : 200 200 0
24.02.2010 14:41:45 Att # 200 : Write error rate : 100 100 9491
24.02.2010 14:41:54
24.02.2010 14:41:54 MHDD>EXIT
24.02.2010 14:41:54 MHDD: Exit

Customer did not say that the laptop was dropped or damaged, just that he tried fixing it by the chkdsk in Recovery Console. What stands out to me on the above is the Reallocated Sector Count. Thanks in advance for any input.

Shawn

[fzabkar]

Hint: The numbers look much smaller in hex.

[beto]

U have many reallocated sectors that could be caused a overflow of defect list , caused by maybe one bad head wich find a lof of sectors and filled , with proper tools & experience could be getting u data back, this case should be need hardware control, so by software its very hard u get data back, and could be dangerous for heads the attempts of retries could be end´s , on a knocking case with BSY state , the best should be send to a DR company here!

Hint: There are some family´s on fujitsu with tendence to bad surface so be carefull !!

Regards

[fzabkar]

U have many reallocated sectors that could be caused a overflow of defect list , caused by maybe one bad head wich find a lof of sectors and filled , with proper tools & experience could be getting u data back, this case should be need hardware control, so by software its very hard u get data back, and could be dangerous for heads the attempts of retries could be end´s , on a knocking case with BSY state , the best should be send to a DR company here!

Hint: There are some family´s on fujitsu with tendence to bad surface so be carefull !!

Regards

There is no overflow in the defect list.

Hint: Hexadecimal.

[fzabkar]

Hint #2: The normalised attribute value is still far above its threshold.

[guru]

even bigger hint...... Fujitsu does NOT report G-List entries like other drives......... So the dec/hex (ID 5) is no good to you!

[fzabkar]

even bigger hint...... Fujitsu does NOT report G-List entries like other drives......... So the dec/hex (ID 5) is no good to you!

Attribute 5 is perfectly useful to someone with a modicum of insight. You don't need to be a guru to see it.

Hint #3: It may help if you examined all 48 bits of the attribute value. It may also help to read the Product Manual, although it's not necessary.

:mrgreen:

[guru]

Attribute 5 is perfectly useful to someone with a modicum of insight. You don't need to be a guru to see it.


Your wrong, a modicum of Insight will not help. I suggest that you read the proper Fujitsu manual and also sign the NDA with Toshiba which is required to access that information.

You cannot Ab uno disce omnes ;o)

[fzabkar]

Attribute 5 is perfectly useful to someone with a modicum of insight. You don't need to be a guru to see it.


Your wrong, a modicum of Insight will not help. I suggest that you read the proper Fujitsu manual and also sign the NDA with Toshiba which is required to access that information.

You cannot Ab uno disce omnes ;o)

If you really had the proper manual, assuming one is even available, then you wouldn't need me to tell you the answer.

BIG Hint #4:

Reallocated sectors count = 13566324 = 0x00CF0174
Reallocation event count = 435028340 = 0x19EE0174

[guru]

Looks like I upset a few people here, sorry if I did.

What I should have said is that SMART attribute values are open to interpretation by each Vendor :O)

[guru]

Reallocated sectors count = 13566324 = 0x00CF0174 (this is seen on good Fuji drives also)


Reallocation event count = 435028340 = 0x19EE0174 (this is a better indication, again open to interpretation by each vendor)

[fzabkar]

Reallocated sectors count = 13566324 = 0x00CF0174 (this is seen on good Fuji drives also)


Reallocation event count = 435028340 = 0x19EE0174 (this is a better indication, again open to interpretation by each vendor)

Nonsense. :lol:

The drive is only good insofar as its number of reallocated sectors isn't yet large enough to trip SMART.

And yes, the SMART attributes are interpreted differently by each vendor, sometimes within their own models.

If you really had the manual, assuming one even exists, then you would know that the above numbers are incomplete.
:mrgreen:

[guru]

And yes, the SMART attributes are interpreted differently by each vendor, sometimes within their own models.


Good that you admit this ;o)

My job is done

[fzabkar]

And yes, the SMART attributes are interpreted differently by each vendor, sometimes within their own models.


Good that you admit this ;o)

My job is done

Your job is to answer the question, namely how many reallocated sectors are being reported by this particular drive, allowing for the fact that SMART attributes are interpreted differently by each vendor?

I'd give you Hint #5, but a "guru" who has access to "the proper manual" shouldn't need any more help.

:mrgreen:

[guru]

I can't help any more as it's proprietary to Fujitsu. I help as much as I can. Over to you...

[fzabkar]

I can't help any more as it's proprietary to Fujitsu. I help as much as I can. Over to you...

You're fooling nobody, and you've helped nobody.

I, OTOH, have answered the subject question many times. Google for it.

He who exalts himself will be humbled.

[guru]

He who is up ones anus constipates himself Guru 2010

[hddguy]

He who is up ones anus constipates himself Guru 2010