7200.11 Spin, Click, Click, Spins Down

[Bohack]

A few weeks ago I had a problem with a drive, rebooted and it was fine. I know, I know, the writing was on the wall. Last week the system couldn't detect the drive, after a reboot the BIOS wouldn't detect the drive. When I power it on the bench it: spins up, click 11 times, then spins down.

Drive specs Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 750 GB ST3750630AS Firmware LC11

I made a USB to TTL adapter. Set my putty to 38400 and the right COM port. I did not remove the PCB... I hit ctrl-z and got the F3 T> prompt I also received a few of the LED:000000CE FAddr:0028DFBB messages. Again with the PCB intact I tried spinning the drive up with the U command in level 2 and received the error below. So I guess that is normal?

Where do I start? It sounds to me like a bad head? Luckily I have another drive exactly the same (I mean exact only the serial number is different!) Same date code and site code...

Do I just transplant the heads?
Will a PCB swap work, being it is identical?
Should I try to brick the drive, fudging in the putty session? LOL or do you think I have the BSY LBA 0 problem?

F3 T>/2
F3 2>U

Error 1009 DETSEC 00006008
Spin Error
Elapsed Time 22.786 secs
R/W Status 2 R/W Error 84150180

I am looking for guidance... TIA

Bohack

[northwind]

Bad heads. Nothing you can do on your own. Sorry.

[Bohack]

Both drive mean nothing to be... The data of course is a different story. I've watched Scott Moltens videos and I'm just about to the point of replacing the drive heads myself. Any advice?

[labtech]

Both drive mean nothing to be... The data of course is a different story. I've watched Scott Moltens videos and I'm just about to the point of replacing the drive heads myself. Any advice?

Practice on a different drive of the same MDL few times.
One simple mistake and it could be over for the data.

[hddguy]

I've watched Scott Moltens videos and I'm just about to the point of replacing the drive heads myself. Any advice?

Ive watched ER several times, now im at the point where I can perform my very own heart transplant....

There is a lot more to it than simply 'changing' the heads.

Nick is right, practice on dummy drives, you will see for yourself.

[BlackST]

I have watched the Olympics but despite the effort still I don't reach that level in showjumping (equestrian) neither in powerlifting. Maybe if I get a better TV... ?

[hddguy]

I have watched the Olympics but despite the effort still I don't reach that level in showjumping (equestrian) neither in powerlifting. Maybe if I get a better TV... ?

Maybe you should watch in HD, might make all the difference

[jono-ats]

That drive probably has 6 heads. Not a good choice to learn to do head swaps.

There is a good chance of media damage along with the bad heads.

[harddrivespecialist]

I have watched the Olympics but despite the effort still I don't reach that level in showjumping (equestrian) neither in powerlifting. Maybe if I get a better TV... ?

Maybe you should watch in HD, might make all the difference

If you watch it in slow motion, it might give you a clue how to do it better.

[atzensepp]

My recommendation: If you need your data back contact a pro for quote and do
no further experiments.

If you just want to get a working drive you might check this out:
http://howto.starahead.com/?p=61
Error messages look similar to your's.
But honestly I would not dare to store critical data on such a treated drive again.

[SAjunky]

Judging on the fact that error messages are the same as with contacts blocked by cardboard when trying to spin up, I guess, igood finding, atzensepp.
I suggest to remove PCB and clean contacts with soft pencil eraser and try again. If doesn't help, then my second suspect is blown chip on PCB driving motor, as it is definitely motor spin-up error, not a bad head as suggested.

[mr_spokk]

Judging on the fact that error messages are the same as with contacts blocked by cardboard when trying to spin up, I guess, igood finding, atzensepp.
I suggest to remove PCB and clean contacts with soft pencil eraser and try again. If doesn't help, then my second suspect is blown chip on PCB driving motor, as it is definitely motor spin-up error, not a bad head as suggested.

As Bohack writes:"When I power it on the bench it: spins up, click 11 times, then spins down" it's not motorchip, it's heads gone.

[Vulcan]

As Bohack writes:"When I power it on the bench it: spins up, click 11 times, then spins down" it's not motorchip, it's heads gone.

Agreed

[Deuterium]

I have watched the Olympics but despite the effort still I don't reach that level in showjumping (equestrian) neither in powerlifting. Maybe if I get a better TV... ?

That's brilliant

[SAjunky]

As Bohack writes:"When I power it on the bench it: spins up, click 11 times, then spins down" it's not motorchip, it's heads gone.

Fact it does attempt to sipn doesn't mean is able to reach desired rotational speed and stability. Besides, if you read closely, error message consists of two parts:

Code:

Error 1009 DETSEC 00006008
Spin Error
Elapsed Time 22.786 secs
R/W Status 2 R/W Error 84150180

Two operation has been issued: spin-up and read (dependant on the first one).
In my opinion only the first error is relevant (spin error), the second one is just result of the first one, as read command was already in the queue.

[BlackST]

I have watched the Olympics but despite the effort still I don't reach that level in showjumping (equestrian) neither in powerlifting. Maybe if I get a better TV... ?

Maybe you should watch in HD, might make all the difference

If you watch it in slow motion, it might give you a clue how to do it better.

I can only say I am happy with MY horses , MY gym and MY life and I can have a beer whenever I want and do whatever I want with any pressure for RESULTS.
In this case , anyway, it's more likely a head problem and no video, even in super HD can help. AND doing it is not exactly simple and straight even for us, isn't it ?

[hddguy]

spins up, click 11 times, then spins down.

Error 1009 DETSEC 00006008
Spin Error
Elapsed Time 22.786 secs
R/W Status 2 R/W Error 84150180

I agree with bad heads...

[SAjunky]

Guys, you either bashing on unimportant issue at the moment or trying to hide the fact, which I going to expose by asking the following question:
Are you proceeding with head transplant first before checking that PCB is working correctly, Do you?

I am asking, as if you don't, shame on you!

[labtech]

@Bohack
Every member stated their opinion as far as what they think the issue may be and NOT so much what you should do and how to proceed. That is more or less up to you to figure out how to go about it, as nobody wishes you to lose your data on a general remote (not having the drive to run tests ourselves) diagnosis. As far as I am concerned, maybe somebody else in a different location with little experience is feeding you this output info by simply testing the wrong drive... I do not know the circumstances...

But, here are some things to know:
1) If you want to rule out the PCB as the culprit, search in the forum using keywords "ROM" and "adaptives" for example. Read around and you will understand the issue and what needs to be done. The fact that you claim you have a compatible healthy drive to use, then that helps a little given you are able to prevent further damage in performing the work.

2) If it is a PCB issue and doing what the research leads you to do, then great, problem solved. If it is not the PCB, then you already told yourself what the issue may be.

Whatever you do, I suggest you have a solid plan for what you want to accomplish.

Best wishes

[hddguy]

Guys, you either bashing on unimportant issue at the moment or trying to hide the fact,

You have your opinion on it, I have mine. Unimportant? The op wants our opinions, I gave mine as did others, how is this 'unimportant' or 'bashing on unimportant issue' ??

I have seen many cases with similar message in terminal (Spin Error) but in NONE of these cases I have had knocking of heads and spindle stopping.

Either way, the op has seen a few scott moulton videos ( ) and is probably going to have a go at DIY and will surely make it worse. Then, we will never be able to confirm it.

But for the record, I am still sure it is head related...