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December 4th, 2015, 13:24
Can anyone provide me with the NV-RAM file for this disk ?
USAG module also fails to read.
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December 4th, 2015, 17:37
How we should find out which version of firmware you have in this drive?
December 4th, 2015, 18:52
NV-RAM is unlikely failure
December 4th, 2015, 20:09
I'm only going to be at office on monday, however I know its not arm type, the disk can't be ID'ed. When i try to scan I cant access any sector at all. However after this post i noticed C13 was missing from PCB at all. I'll get to you as soon as possible. All the modules I can read are 00. What kind of issue might this be?
December 7th, 2015, 6:13
Spildit wrote:DRUG wrote:I'm only going to be at office on monday, however I know its not arm type, the disk can't be ID'ed. When i try to scan I cant access any sector at all. However after this post i noticed C13 was missing from PCB at all. I'll get to you as soon as possible. All the modules I can read are 00. What kind of issue might this be?
What do you mean that all modules that you can read are 00 ? They are empty (no content at all) even if the MRT Tool states that it read sucessfuly ? Can you read NVRam and ROM ?
So i got back today, only to find out that:
All modules fail to read, ATA1 fails to initialize the device.
Can't load Teachkey, can't load NV-RAM, nothing.
December 7th, 2015, 14:14
Spildit wrote:Were you able to read NVRAM to start with ?
Does your pcb have external ROM as well ?
No, I couldn't.
Yes it does.
Please pay attention to C33, it looks damaged.
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December 7th, 2015, 14:31
Doesn't look damaged, it looks missing.
December 7th, 2015, 14:43
so do it the old fashioned way... transfer the ROM chip or read the ROM with an external programmer
and like pcimage said
pcimage wrote:NV-RAM is unlikely failure
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jermy on December 7th, 2015, 14:53, edited 1 time in total.
December 7th, 2015, 14:52
I have the same model drive here and the missing C33 capacitor is the same physical size as C11 but on my drive it is a darker brown colour. C11 is lighter brown colour. That may or may not be important.
December 7th, 2015, 15:16
Measure the voltage between the pins of C33. If it is 18V or so, then it is the boost capacitor for the VCM servo.
FWIW, the L7250 SMOOTH datasheet specifies a 330nF VBOOST capacitor. I don't know whether the smaller capacitor to the left of C33 can cope on its own. If not, then I would expect instability in the servo.
December 7th, 2015, 16:20
The headstack would probably still move, but it may not lock onto the track reliably. The boost voltage is required for controlling the drive to the high-side MOSFETs. The drive to the low-side MOSFETs would still be OK. I'm not completely certain, though.
In any case, I could be wrong about the function of C33. It may in fact be bypassing the +5V or +12V supply to the motor controller, in which case its absence would not be super critical. Perhaps dick could confirm the voltage on his PCB.
December 7th, 2015, 17:53
Happy to oblige.
So it measures 11.89v across the capacitor.
12v rail direct from the psu reads 11.94v
December 7th, 2015, 18:12
It looks like C33 may be the bypass capacitor for the low frequency noise on the +12V supply. The smaller capacitor would then be filtering the high frequency noise. A continuity test between the +12V terminal of the capacitor and the +12V input to the PCB would confirm this beyond doubt.
December 8th, 2015, 4:05
fzabkar wrote:It looks like C33 may be the bypass capacitor for the low frequency noise on the +12V supply. The smaller capacitor would then be filtering the high frequency noise. A continuity test between the +12V terminal of the capacitor and the +12V input to the PCB would confirm this beyond doubt.
As expected NO noticeable resistance was measured.
December 9th, 2015, 6:23
Well, I'll get a donor for some rom swap and hope that servo is stable.
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