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April 28th, 2016, 13:22
Hi,
Today i have a burned Seagate PCB, are this TVS diode ? the drive won't turn on, nothing sign of life.
PCB No. 100536286 Rev B
Is there any chances to repair the board ? or maybe some of measurement test, since i don't have the circuit schematic.
Thanks
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April 28th, 2016, 14:02
Miftah wrote:Today i have a burned Seagate PCB, are this TVS diode ?
Yes.
Is there any chances to repair the board ? or maybe some of measurement test
Yes.
April 28th, 2016, 16:18
Here is a detailed photo of the 5V TVS diode:
https://forum.hddguru.com/download/file ... &mode=viewMeasure the voltages at V1 and V2. These should be the Vcore and Vio test points.
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April 28th, 2016, 19:03
Hi fzabkar,
Lot of thanks, i would try it then.
Could you please tell me how many volts are V1 and V2 ?
Should i test with powered line ? If yes, then which is safe, onboard or offboard ?
Many thaanks.
April 28th, 2016, 19:22
Test with power. Use a screw hole as your ground reference.
V1 and V2 will probably be around 1.2V and 2.5V (or 3.3V).
Test the PCB off the drive.
April 28th, 2016, 20:21
Nicely noted, i will post the result
April 29th, 2016, 9:54
Fazbkar,
There are no voltage both V1 and V2, please help me for further.
Thank you.
April 29th, 2016, 10:10
Only a resistor marked "R499" have 3,3volts
April 29th, 2016, 11:09
Miftah wrote:Only a resistor marked "R499" have 3,3volts
Sorry, "R499" giving 2.5 volts, and the motor connector giving 4.2volts, a small 5 leg component loks like voltage regulator giving 3.3volts.
April 29th, 2016, 16:02
ICBW, but IMHO that 5-pin component looks too "busy" to be an LDO regulator. Normally an LDO regulator would have two filter capacitors on its Vin and Vout pins, but there don't seem to any nearby. Can you identify the markings on this chip?
Maybe we can work backwards. Pin 1 of the SDRAM should connect to the 2.5V supply. With the power removed from the PCB, can you measure any continuity between pin #1 of the SDRAM and either of the two "2.2" coils (V1 and V2)? Similarly, can you measure any continuity between pin #8 of the "BIOS IC" and either of the two "2.2" coils?
BTW, I believe the R499 resistor may the current sense resistor for the voice coil or spindle motor.
April 29th, 2016, 19:06
fzabkar wrote:ICBW, but IMHO that 5-pin component looks too "busy" to be an LDO regulator. Normally an LDO regulator would have two filter capacitors on its Vin and Vout pins, but there don't seem to any nearby. Can you identify the markings on this chip?
# The mark like R81, i can't clearly identify.
fzabkar wrote:Maybe we can work backwards. Pin 1 of the SDRAM should connect to the 2.5V supply. With the power removed from the PCB, can you measure any continuity between pin #1 of the SDRAM and either of the two "2.2" coils (V1 and V2)?
# It's 0 ohm, continue beep on multimeter, good continuity both V1/V2 - Pin 1 SDRAM (Winbond W9464G6IH-5).
fzabkar wrote:Similarly, can you measure any continuity between pin #8 of the "BIOS IC" and either of the two "2.2" coils?
# It's 0 ohm, continue beep on multimeter, good continuity both V1/V2 - Pin 8 BIOS (Winbond 25X40AL09).
April 29th, 2016, 19:07
Both coil are missing the power, maybe we can trace from here.
April 29th, 2016, 19:25
Further inspection, there are a circuit shorted by kind of a deep cut, please take a look at the pict.
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April 29th, 2016, 19:43
I don't know what to make of the cut to those traces. If the tracks are severed, then maybe the PCB isn't economically salvageable.
As for V1 and V2, your measurements would suggest that they are shorted together, or that both are shorted to ground. Could you perform the same measurements on the 200 ohms range? Could you also test the resistance between ground and each of V1 and V2?
April 29th, 2016, 21:54
fzabkar wrote:I don't know what to make of the cut to those traces. If the tracks are severed, then maybe the PCB isn't economically salvageable.
# i'm thinking about PCB swap, would it need EEPROM/BIOS swap also ?
fzabkar wrote:As for V1 and V2, your measurements would suggest that they are shorted together, or that both are shorted to ground. Could you perform the same measurements on the 200 ohms range? Could you also test the resistance between ground and each of V1 and V2?
# Yes, it's shorted with ground
April 30th, 2016, 1:06
Miftah wrote:fzabkar wrote:# i'm thinking about PCB swap, would it need EEPROM/BIOS swap also ?
Yes.
http://search.store.yahoo.net/yhst-1443 ... 7584971410
May 2nd, 2016, 6:12
PCB swap with ROM Chip transfer fix the drive.
Thanks a lot fzabkar, attempting to backup the data now.
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