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SEAGATE ST3250823AS - "falling" head

October 16th, 2024, 13:29

Hi

While back I got this Seagate ST3250823AS. On first power up (without SATA data) it didn't do anything suspicious. After connecting it to my PC it was detected fine. Sadly, when it was booting to windows the heads started "falling" (probably parking) then clicking and so on. It wasn't detected in windows after that. BIOS will only detect it if I power cycle the drive. Tomorrow I'll attempt to post the terminal logs and .mp3 of the sounds it makes. I'd like to know what might be the cause of this behavior. It was sitting outside for a while in a ziplock bag (there's even some alge on top of it) but the PCB and connectors are fine + the seal should keep out any outside fluids.

Re: SEAGATE ST3250823AS - "falling" head

October 17th, 2024, 9:53

Here's the terminal log:
Code:
4096k x 16 buffer detected
TONKA - 1_Disk    M-27  03-30-05 11:42

Buzz  - Head Mask FFFF - Switch to full int.
              Spin Ready
3.03  06-21-05 17:16
(P)(H)SATA Reset
AutoRd Err 43 at ffffffff.00.0002

Read Ver Retrys
AutoRd Err 43 at ffffffff.00.0002

Read Ver Retrys
AutoRd Err 43 at ffffffff.00.0002

Read Ver Retrys
AutoRd Err 43 at ffffffff.00.0002

Read Ver Retrys
AutoRd Err 43 at ffffffff.00.0002

Read Ver Failure!
Failed sys sect. write
SATA core D1 Yuma 6192 No LED Native mode
(S)SATA Reset
SATA core D1 Yuma 6192 No LED Native mode
$Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Interface task reset
4096k x 16 buffer detected
TONKA - 1_Disk    M-27  03-30-05 11:42
Head Mask FFFF - Switch to full int.
              Spin Ready
3.03  06-21-05 17:16
(P)(H)SATA Reset
AutoRd Err 43 at ffffffff.00.0002

Read Ver Retrys
AutoRd Err 43 at ffffffff.00.0002

Read Ver Retrys
AutoRd Err 43 at ffffffff.00.0002

Read Ver Retrys
SATA core D1 Yuma 6192 No LED Native mode
$$$Switch to full int.
              AM Reacquired
NIWOT TIME OUT
AutoRd Err 43 at ffffffff.00.0002

Read Ver Retrys
AT Er 01 Nwt Er 00 RdWr 00019.00.02f5
ATA St d0 Er 04 Op b1 a,0000/0/00,00 01 c1
Niwot:  00000000  ff  00000000.0.0c0 8000  1600 07fe 0000
AT Er 00 Nwt Er 37 RdWr 02afe.02.0135
ATA St d0 Er 00 Op 25 e,  386d2a3,1000 0f00 0000
Niwot:  0386d2a3  18  0386d2a3.0.0c0 8000  27ba 07fe 0000
$NIWOT TIME OUT
Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - AutoRd Err 11 at 002afe.02.0135

CE Log EC=37  Rtype=5 OV=0 STStatus0
Head Mask FFFF - Switch to full int.
              Spin Ready
AutoRd Err 43 at ffffffff.00.0081

Read Ver Retrys
ErrorLBA 0386d2a3
AT Er 00 Nwt Er 37 RdWr ffffffff.00.010f
ATA St d1 Er 40 Op 25 e,  386d2a3,1000 0000 0000
Niwot:  0001624c  58  0001624c.0.10e 0001  3fc0 0001 0000
AutoRd Err 43 at ffffffff.00.006f

Read Ver Retrys
AutoRd Err 43 at ffffffff.00.006f

Read Ver Retrys
AutoRd Err 43 at ffffffff.00.0071

Read Ver Retrys
AutoRd Err 43 at ffffffff.00.0071

Read Ver Retrys
AutoRd Err 43 at ffffffff.00.0076

Read Ver Retrys
AutoRd Err 43 at ffffffff.00.0076

Read Ver Retrys
AutoRd Err 43 at ffffffff.00.0076

Read Ver Retrys
$Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF -
Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Interface task reset
4096k x 16 buffer detected
TONKA - 1_Disk    M-27  03-30-05 11:42
Head Mask FFFF - Switch to full int.
              Spin Ready
3.03  06-21-05 17:16
(P)(H)SATA Reset
AutoRd Err 43 at ffffffff.00.0002

Read Ver Retrys
SATA core D1 Yuma 6192 No LED Native mode
(S)SATA Reset
SATA core D1 Yuma 6192 No LED Native mode
$Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Interface task reset
4096k x 16 buffer detected
TONKA - 1_Disk    M-27  03-30-05 11:42
Head Mask FFFF - Switch to full int.
              Spin Ready
3.03  06-21-05 17:16
(P)(H)SATA Reset
SATA core D1 Yuma 6192 No LED Native mode
$Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF -

There are some power cycles made by me. Ill try to take the .mp3 file later today.
It looks like it can't write to sys sectors so I suspect SA damage?

Re: SEAGATE ST3250823AS - "falling" head

October 19th, 2024, 13:42

And here's the audio of it. The time drive starts clicking the "head mask - FFFF" appears. This happened when the PC was detecting drives. Sometimes it gets detected fine, then screws itself, so SA damage?
Attachments
seagate barashit 7200 (2).zip
(1.57 MiB) Downloaded 101 times

Re: SEAGATE ST3250823AS - "falling" head

October 20th, 2024, 0:18

Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF - Head Mask FFFF

And yeap, one of the heads is really dead. If the data is important then you (or data recovery professional probably) have to swap the heads from a donor drive. And it's better to have proper heads replacement tools because of internal parking area (close to spindle motor), these drives does not have an external parking ramp.

Re: SEAGATE ST3250823AS - "falling" head

October 20th, 2024, 14:09

This might be usefull
https://www.phantom.sannata.org/viewtop ... 13#p364013

Re: SEAGATE ST3250823AS - "falling" head

October 20th, 2024, 22:15

If you have professional tools you could try building a firmware loader

Re: SEAGATE ST3250823AS - "falling" head

October 21st, 2024, 9:47

Sadly, all I have is an TTL adaptor and some knowledge about HDD's :(
I have got some info from a user that it might be heads which advised me to use /7X command. Sadly it complains about no valid cert codes. After I load them I get:
Code:
$NIWOT TIME OUT
Head Mask - FFFF...

I guess this points to the heads being good enough for the drive to initialize but not enough for it to work?
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