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Quantum Fireball Plus AS-Repair & Recovery

August 28th, 2007, 17:45

Hi Mates ,
I got 65 Quantum drives from some chap for Rs :60 each .Most of these drives are ok and need some normal logical scanning and i just need to put the found defects in p or g list .I am using PC-3000 ISA for This .My Problem is that i have no manuals for quantum .Although being a old user of ISA i can figure out something .Can someone suggest the following

1 :A PM With English Manual
2 :How to disable heads in this drive series.I Have a 40 gig and its head no 3 is virtually gone sooo many Bad Sectors [ How can i disable that ]

Your Fast Response Would Be Appreciated

Re: Quantum Fireball Plus AS-Repair & Recovery

August 28th, 2007, 23:37

Hi,
I Also Have LCT 20 In These which i discovered a few hours later .I am really really interested to know the info i want from old timers likes pepe,rameez .I am moving from DR Jobs To Reconditioning The HDD's in india .

Re: Quantum Fireball Plus AS-Repair & Recovery

August 29th, 2007, 14:53

Hi Mates,
I Found ACe Manuals For Quantum .Anyone Interested Please Ask In PM .I Am Still Interested In Knowing your Experiences related to these drives

Re: Quantum Fireball Plus AS-Repair & Recovery

August 30th, 2007, 14:24

For these drive u have to disable bad zones u cannot disable bad heads u have to disable the zone of that pirticular head .

Re: Quantum Fireball Plus AS-Repair & Recovery

August 30th, 2007, 14:44

hi rameez,
i am on the prowl for these drives and doing good.i am reading + actually doing + experimenting

Re: Quantum Fireball Plus AS-Repair & Recovery

September 30th, 2007, 3:11

Rameez ,
I Have Gone Through the Manual Exhaustively .I am now in experimentation mode .I tried To selfscan The As series on two drives and it failed .Now i am experimenting zone disabling in the drives .The issue is that if i disable a particular zone in the as series the AS series will also allow me to select the head were i want to disable the zone .Now if i select a particular head and mark one zone bad the servo test never seems to complete .Now i am experimenting on a formula that is is i disable a zone i am gonna disable all heads for that zone .In some series of quantum drives if you disable a zone all heads in that zone also are disabled .Still experimenting

Re: Quantum Fireball Plus AS-Repair & Recovery

September 30th, 2007, 4:00

Rameez ,
One More Question .Do i need To Tinker Around The LBA Also After Zone Disabling .Also i have a observation to make if for example the defect table is cleaned and i start a servo scan .Is different every time Why ? .Is there a heat issue

Re: Quantum Fireball Plus AS-Repair & Recovery

September 30th, 2007, 7:56

After u disable a pirticular zone for a drive the capacity changes on its own one more thing u have to clean defect tables after disabling zones dont use servo test to check the drive use Victoria instead if u get a defect use write erasing option to remove them if they dont go calculate zone for that drive and disable it again and repeat process untill 100% hdd scanned .

Re: Quantum Fireball Plus AS-Repair & Recovery

September 30th, 2007, 13:49

Hi Rameez ,
i have very very imteresting post on this .The drive in question is a 40 gb Quantum AS .Now before i started the job i figured out that zone 12 on head 2 was defective .I disabled that .The Utility automatically deletes the defect table after that .But i could not check as you said it automatically sets the lba also to match the capacity .Then i started the Servo test it passed head 0,1 and head 2 and also passed the zone on head 2 that i disabled but after it passed the head the servo testing could not go any further and started doing gaarrr gaaarrr .I thought that i need to disable zone 12 on all the heads.It again deleted the defect tables and again i did the servo test .It did the same thing on head 2 .It passed head 0 and 1 in flying colours like before .Then i though lets disable zone 11 and zone 13 on head 2 as that area also might be bad .But again same thing happened .Then i restored zones that i had disabled in head 0,1 and 3 and kept zone 11,12,13 disabled in head 2 .Still Same .If i press esc key when it gets stuck in zones end on head 2 it moves further and does the same thing with head 3 at same location .Man something is wrong somewhere i have tried all means and options on this one .And one more thing i am not going to give up i will make this damn thing work 100000% .


I never give up easily .... :vo:

Re: Quantum Fireball Plus AS-Repair & Recovery

October 1st, 2007, 13:01

Guys,
I Solved This Mystery .I did It :vo: .Drive 100% ok And Without Any Bad Sectors Now .Bingo Now i repair 65 of these in few days .It took 15 days of painstaking effort to learn this

Re: Quantum Fireball Plus AS-Repair & Recovery

October 1st, 2007, 13:42

Good job its kind of hard and takes alot of practise .

Re: Quantum Fireball Plus AS-Repair & Recovery

October 1st, 2007, 14:28

Great man........you have done it !
As per my promise, I had come here to have some eyes over this topic, but it sounds very good, that you have resolved it !

Now, please post what you have learnt or the essense of your experiements so that other peoples shouldn ot re-invent the wheel, as you had to to........

Good Luck......and Once again, great job

Re: Quantum Fireball Plus AS-Repair & Recovery

November 2nd, 2015, 19:50

I suggest to leave those drive along for couple weeks and look again. Some times problems easily returns. More interesting to start SS on them. You could get really clean and good drive after.

Re: Quantum Fireball Plus AS-Repair & Recovery

November 2nd, 2015, 20:17

Yes. But it was long time ago, when I do repairing hdds.

Re: Quantum Fireball Plus AS-Repair & Recovery

November 12th, 2015, 11:22

Spildit ,
You Have Gone Mad :mrgreen: .Lolx Anyways I did Not Do Much With Them As i Have Daily New Cases And Also Some Older Drives To Look Into .But The Day Would Come When i Will Do This .If You Want Me To Test Something Specifically Let Me Know Brother .Try To Locate ISA + PCI Manuals For Quantum

Re: Quantum Fireball Plus AS-Repair & Recovery

November 12th, 2015, 11:51

drHDD wrote: You could get really clean and good drive after.

?? :roll: Quantum AS ? in which " the effect of a rolling metal ball" because of the dying preamp ? with sagging smart.attribute 195(?) ?

Re: Quantum Fireball Plus AS-Repair & Recovery

November 12th, 2015, 12:15

As you can see it's look like TS is talking definitely not about drives with dead preamp.

Re: Quantum Fireball Plus AS-Repair & Recovery

November 12th, 2015, 13:28

4 out of 5 were dying preamp. Nikimi massively repaired them with the SS, but it did not help.

Re: Quantum Fireball Plus AS-Repair & Recovery

November 12th, 2015, 14:15

Yes, dead preamp is most common problem on ASes
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