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Yet another Samsung problem

April 29th, 2008, 22:47

Have you guys seen this error, what does it mean?

Samsung SP1604N with this terminal error:

SpnOk
DAC:-00245
H: +00000
UF: 1. 1st Gray err
H: +00001
UF: 1. 1st Gray err
H: +00002
UF: 1. 1st Gray err
H: +00003
UF: 1. 1st Gray err
H: +00000
UF: 1. 1st Gray err
H: +00001
UF: 1. 1st Gray err
H: +00002
UF: 1. 1st Gray err
H: +00003
UF: 1. 1st Gray err
ENG>SRV>

Thanks

Re: Yet another Samsung problem

April 30th, 2008, 10:16

Dead PCB or dead preamp.

Re: Yet another Samsung problem

April 30th, 2008, 11:30

Head Gone.

DF :)

Re: Yet another Samsung problem

April 30th, 2008, 13:58

I vote for PCB or preamp, though this is not all about voting :)

check the drive with another PCB of the same model regardless of FW revision, if the terminal gives the same, preamp is gone.

pepe

Re: Yet another Samsung problem

April 30th, 2008, 16:59

Either preamp, head or firmware issue (yes, could be)

Does the drive knock at startup or calibrate ?

You can easily test for data out of the preamp (quantitative, not qualitative) and the relevant signals on the PCB with 150 Mhz or more bandwidth scope.
I have discussed this kind of test about two years ago, probably not here... I can't remember.

Regards.

Re: Yet another Samsung problem

April 30th, 2008, 16:59

Either preamp, head or firmware issue (yes, could be)

Does the drive knock at startup or calibrate ?

You can easily test for data out of the preamp (quantitative, not qualitative) and the relevant signals on the PCB with 150 Mhz or more bandwidth scope.
I have discussed this kind of test about two years ago, probably not here... I can't remember.

Regards.

Re: Yet another Samsung problem

April 30th, 2008, 17:11

Hi,

with such report the drive must be clicking, but let TerraNova answer this question for sure.
Since it is apparent that the drive cannot access any of its heads - most probably preamp is not functioning due to either its own damage or due to lack of proper alimentation from the pcb - Starling an me were suspecting preamp or PCB problem in the first run.

pepe

Re: Yet another Samsung problem

April 30th, 2008, 21:41

Does the drive knock at startup or calibrate ? yes it knocks at startup, no it wont calibrate.

Thank's guys, will keep you posted ....

Re: Yet another Samsung problem

May 3rd, 2008, 23:38

yes its the head as i swapped with SP1614C (SATA) i got the same errors on terminal.

Can I use SP1614C (patient drive is SP1604N) HDA? Both have the same P/V MS and the donor drive is SATA.

Thank's

Re: Yet another Samsung problem

May 4th, 2008, 9:22

If no further investigation on the MC is possible in emg. mode , you get no signal at the HSA connector (checked w/ scope or logic analyzer ?) and you are sure it's not a firmware problem , then HSA swap could be the last resort.
Anyway I had some drives with same symptoms fixed : simple firmware issue (the sw on the MC and the code didn't match anymore) , but I was going only to repair the drive not DR.

Re: Yet another Samsung problem

May 4th, 2008, 21:50

Hy terranova did u check the preamplifier circuit or flex from MHA number its same between donnors?

Re: Yet another Samsung problem

May 5th, 2008, 12:48

Hi,
Have u checked with another PCB?

pepe

Re: Yet another Samsung problem

May 5th, 2008, 20:59

Yes Pepe, same results on terminal. click click 8 times and power down.
The donor drive i used is SP1614C, just wondering if it is compatible with the patient HDA, both have the same P/V MS.

Thanks
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