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 Post subject: FUJITSU MJA2500BH G1 failing?
PostPosted: October 31st, 2012, 14:50 
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Dear Members,

Can someone look at my rapport and tell me if it can be the problem that my VAIO VGN-FW51JF laptop freezes and the speaker made a loud noice.

Thanks in advance!

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found rapport of same HD: https://gist.github.com/1030958


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 Post subject: Re: FUJITSU MJA2500BH G1 failing?
PostPosted: October 31st, 2012, 15:21 
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HD tune gives a warning:
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 Post subject: Re: FUJITSU MJA2500BH G1 failing?
PostPosted: October 31st, 2012, 17:44 
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There is no standard for reporting SMART attributes. SMART attributes differ between HDD manufacturers, and between different models from the same manufacturer. They can even differ between firmware versions for the same model. In fact your drive has a Threshold value of 46 for the Raw Read Error Rate, yet the same model at your alternative URL has a threshold of 0 for the same attribute. This means that you cannot meaningfully compare the two sets of data.

As for HD Tune, IMHO it is an excellent benchmarking tool, but it is a very poor SMART utility. I say this because it very often produces erroneous warnings. Moreover, HD Tune's author appears not to understand that raw SMART values span 48 bits rather than 32 bits, or perhaps s/he believes that the uppermost 16 bits are unimportant.

For example, SysInfo reports a raw value of 9019431321600 for the Reallocated Sector Count, but I suspect that HD Tune reports only 0, or at least that's how earlier versions would have reported it. Many of these large numbers only make sense when they are viewed in hexadecimal, eg ...

Reallocated Sector Count = 9019431321600 = 0x083400000000 --> 0x0834 0x0000 0x0000
Reallocation Event Count = 709099520 = 0x00002A440000 --> 0x0000 0x2A44 0x0000

If you break each number into 16-bit components, the data would suggest that the actual counts are 0 for both attributes. Moreover, the value of 0x0834 (= 2100 decimal) would suggest that SMART allows for a maximum of 2100 reallocated sectors before the drive is deemed to have failed.

As for the raw values of the Raw Read Error Rate, Seek Error Rate, and Write Error Rate attributes, yours are nonzero whereas your alternative URL shows zeros for these attributes. I believe this is due to firmware differences, not actual errors. I say this because I have an old IDE Fujitsu model where these numbers represent sector counts, not error counts. I expect that you will find that these numbers steadily increase to about 256000 and then roll over to zero.

Still another example where hex values are more meaningful is the Power-Off Retract Count for the other drive:

48300117 = 0x000002E10055

I believe that the actual number of retracts could be 0x0055, ie 85 decimal.

In short, I don't see any concrete evidence of problems in your SMART reports, but that's only my personal opinion.

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 Post subject: Re: FUJITSU MJA2500BH G1 failing?
PostPosted: October 31st, 2012, 18:21 
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Thanks for your answer... Hoped my HD was the problem


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 Post subject: Re: FUJITSU MJA2500BH G1 failing?
PostPosted: November 1st, 2012, 5:13 
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I'm not saying that your HD is not the problem, all I'm saying is that I don't see anything in your SMART report that I recognise as being out of the ordinary.

In any case, SMART doesn't always pick up every problem. For example, if there are "difficult" sectors which require several retries before they can be read, then these may not be reflected in the SMART data.

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